Mfkzt @ 17:11

“…can we stop this insane BS?”  You no doubt know we aren’t going to beat them at their own game, so there’s no need to waste energy trying.  The solution is to focus on what we want and manifest it, collectively.  That effort IMHO is spearheaded by Ron Paul.  We each have the opportunity to take part in overwhelming the PTB to the point their plans fizzle.  Invite them to play our game or get lost!

BTW, a post you made on GE a long time ago caused me to do a search on your handle.  It has led me down an interesting path and facilitated some very good connections.  Thanks!

Auric….unfortunately no…..

…I guess you could copy it and paste it into a file……or just ask PM Fever to e it to you..

..would be a good entry for the IMDB Health Board…..you could go there and paste it in to a new topic and it would remain there …..so many ways…so little time..hehe

UTIL .vs Gold, Silver

util-silver-w.png

util-gold-w.png

White Gold is an alloy

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_gold

White Gold?

Pls., somebody explain to me how some so-called pure Gold looks white (silvery)? All the Gold I ever found as flakes or little nuggets is yellow. So, what is white Gold, alloy or natural? Thanks in Advance.

How do you figure your gains?

“Barring a total collapse on Dec. 31, the Dow Utility Index will record a 2007 total return in the upper teens, adding to four years of robust gains from the late-2002 low and well ahead of almost any other major US average. A good part of the outperformance in 2007 was due to investors’ rush to safety in the second half of the year. But the rally’s key underpinning continued to be fundamentals.”

www.financialsense.com/editorials/rconrad/2007/1229.html

util-silver-gold.jpg

Looks like a box full of silver setting in the closet did just as well

and don’t tell anyone about the gold this year. Just to be fair,

here is a chart since the util bottom in late 2002.

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Auric

kolton December 29, 2007 at 19:27

I hadn’t seen that, thanks for the link.

Dr. Krassimir Petrov, From Stategic Investment Newsletter

To summarize these declarations from Petrov, gold will increase in VALUE under all possible future deflation/inflation scenarios. - mobax

“…For example, if a genuine deflation grips the U.S. economy — like the deflation of the 1930s — then $1,500 for the top of the gold bull market might be too high. On the other hand, if a long 1970s-style stagflation is in the cards, $5,000 is too low. The point is that a call for the price of gold without clear economic assumptions is a wild guess.”

“A well-established proxy for the price of financial assets is the Dow Jones industrial index. The single best proxy for commodities is gold. Their price ratio, the Dow/gold ratio, tells us how many ounces of gold buy one unit of Dow Jones. If today the Dow is 13,600 and gold is $800, the Dow/gold ratio is 17. Today, it takes 17 ounces of gold to buy one unit of the Dow index.” 

“So how high will gold go? The correct answer is simple: as high as the Dow Jones. It is important to understand that this method does not tell us when. It could be five, 10, or 15 years. It also does not tell us how high. It could be $2,000, $10,000, or $50,000.”

“Which scenario is most likely depends on how the Federal Reserve approaches inflation. Based on the Fed’s reaction, there are three possible future scenarios: (1) deflation, (2) stagflation, and (3) strong inflation. Let us consider each in turn.”

“The first scenario, deflation, implies a major contraction in the supply of money and credit, similar to the one during the Great Depression […] Under this scenario, a reasonable forecast for the Dow will be about 1,000-1,500, while the gold price will be likely in the range of $800-1,500. This scenario is highly unlikely, since the Fed will fight tooth and nail to prevent a deflation from taking hold.”

“The second scenario, stagflation, is most likely. It should look similar to the 1970s. The Dow peaked in 1966. It made little progress for about 15 years. By 1980, it was just about where it was in 1966, roughly around 1,000. Gold, on the other hand, soared by 25-fold — from $35 to $850. This means that strong inflation during the period kept the Dow from falling, so it did not fall as it did during the Great Depression. In this scenario, we should expect the Dow to remain bound in the 10,000-15,000 range. Then, a gold forecast of $10,000 is perfectly realistic.”

“The third scenario, very strong inflation, is definitely possible, although less likely than stagflation. A strong inflation could push the Dow up to 30,000-50,000 in the coming decade. However, this would also push gold prices up to $20,000-50,000. It is possible, but, in my opinion, not very realistic.”

Wayside…

FYI…Mr. Paul comments on the issue..

Paul: Fox News is ’scared of me’

By James Pindell December 29, 2007 01:40 PM

PLAISTOW, N.H. — Ron Paul said the decision to exclude him from a debate on Fox News Sunday the weekend before the New Hampshire Primary is proof that the network “is scared” of him.

“They are scared of me and don’t want my message to get out, but it will,” Paul said in an interview at a diner here. “They are propagandists for this war and I challenge them on the notion that they are conservative.”

Paul’s staff said they are beginning to plan a rally that will take place at the same time the 90-minute debate will air on television. It will be taped at Saint Anselm College in Goffstown.

“They will not win this skirmish,” he promised.

The Fox debate occurs less than 24 hours after two back to back Republican and Democratic debates on the same campus sponsored by ABC News, WMUR-TV and the social networking website Facebook.

Paul, the Republican Texas Congressman, was wrapping up his final day of campaigning in New Hampshire until the Iowa Caucuses on Thursday.

He spent much of the day campaigning at diners in Manchester and Plaistow and downtown walks in Derry and Exeter.

kolton December 29, 2007 at 19:27

I’d guess that if Ron Paul makes a decent showing in Iowa next week, Faux News will have to include him in the NH debate or suffer a big huge blow to its credibility as well as its “Fair and Balanced” slogan.

Fox News/Ron Paul

Kind of funny…this will probably backfire on Fox….excluding him from the post debate show.    The message boards on Ronpaulforums are claiming that as a result of the Fox action…this item is being discussed on message boards that normally have zero political discussions…  Examples given are message boards like Nine Inch nails and the car detailing forum…  where Ron Paul has never been mentioned before.  He may end up getting more support because he was excluded.

Tent

Lurkers

Stand… As One

FGC

O.K. I saved the web page. He said that he was going to delete

it after a while. Will the web page still be there after he does

this?

TIA

Auric

Wanka Ment

I am wondering if I can get an Amero ,”Slabbed” hmmmmmm
Good to see everyone having fun but still picking up on the important issues.

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