Equisetum @ 20:16 pm

Clearly, I neglected to put a <G> at the end of my subtractive exercise to indicate it was a joke.    Note that the math DOES add up (or subtract down). but I make no claims as to the veracity of the source or accuracy thereof.  <G>

The other possibility is that all those (formerly) productive segments of society you cite simply no longer exist.   Again, <G>.

factsmatter (23:36) So if that PMFever quote “says it all”, then I conclude that

I should go with Maya’s approach whch is, if I understand correctly, to be predominantly and perhaps totally in physical PMs and not in any paper or electronic  forms of the PM market.  More and more I lean towards Maya’s approach.  Are you saying that you are now leaning that way too because of the red flag that you identified in the quote from PMFever ?  Best wishes, Equiz.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY !!!!

TO THE TENT AND IRISH !!!!!!

HUMANOID

silverboom @ 22:24 pm. - Good post

“I would be up for a fight. But simply am at a loss as to how to fight this. ”

Same here.  If you come up with any ideas let me know.   I want to fight it in some way but it seems that the general populous is has swallowed the deceptions hook line and sinker.

Good night folks!

PMFEVER sums it up….

“As long as paper stands as the test, all laws, or should I say, the interpretation of all laws will be controlled by paper.  Electronic dots in this case is simply an exension of paper.”

In my mind that says it all…if their fraudalent behavior becomes a problem…they simply instruct their political subjects to change the rules (laws) to suit their purpose. 

The more things change…the more they stay the same.

Silverboom……….Thanks, but my simple thoughts….

….are really just an accumulation of what I have read from this group, here and on GE in the past, plus what I picked up from reading JS and a few others. 

 First, I believe you will find that the K-Wave far preceded 1913 so the tendencies toward greed and fear that create the long-term cycle, really have little to do with the Fed Res in a direct way.  In fact, I think that 1913 was simply a bankruptcy proceeding caused by a Tripod Operation against these States by European Bankers.

It makes little difference at this time since the only thing that really matters to the people in these dire times is what path is best for their families.  In that regard as funny as it might sound, this managed market approach with massive US Dollar inflation might be the best route to go, if one must choose a path at this time.  In fact, if TPTB had another choice that would benefit them more, I think they would take it.  Would soup kitchen 1929 not give them more control?  Then why do they choose this route?  My guess is that they have no other choice at this time.  IMO, the Fed Res as naked bankrupt as a Blue Jay. The derivatives fiasco blew up in their faces, too.  In this environment they are hanging onto control by a mere thread because as their paper goes so they go, too.  Soup kitchen 1929 is simply not an option for them, or they melt away like the Wicked Witch in Oz.

In fact, I cannot put it into words at this time, but that might be the Silver lining.  They are very much at risk of being shoved aside in this current environment, even if their gameplan works.?  To that end, where is the real achilles heel of the Fed?  That part is very simple, IMO.  It is what I have harped about toward GATA all along.  We live in a world that is controlled by paper.  Stocks, Bonds, Currency, paper gold, loans, ETFs, checks……….everything paper.  There is nothing backing the Fed.  They exist in their ability to print paper……period.  They have extended paper control to Gold and to some extent to oil.  We have no real physical Gold market.  Jim Sinclair said it the other day, their paper may drop in value, but the Central Bank cannot go down as long as they can print.  So, print they will in this time period.  In football if all you have is a running game, you “show the pass” and go with the run.

  Since only Real Money Gold and Silver stand as opposition to the Fed’s paper, there is a real chance that some entity will take a shot at them over the next 4 years, but if they do it will be through the use of substantial amounts of Gold and Silver.  As long as paper stands as the test, all laws, or should I say, the interpretation of all laws will be controlled by paper.  Electronic dots in this case is simply an exension of paper.

Silverboom 22:24…Powerful Post

…..how is the book comming?

     Hope everyone has a great week!

Happy Birthday TENT!

Happy Birthday Irish!

PMFever - I once had the misfortune of speaking “out of order” to one sharp, tough, and intense

intellectual strong man. He swatted me back with a retort that made me question whether I really had any intellectual rigor in my thinking and my “arguments”. It caused me to wake up and do more listening and less positing from a position of weakness - not physical weakness, but that which derives from intellectual THINKING weakness. Methinks it would be worthwhile to spend time with a man of your intellectual rigor, your thoroughness of thought and historical perspective that can only come from intense study, reflecting, meditating…and hard, hard work. Perhaps some time in the near future such a possibility will arise - if so, I intend to seize it by the throat.

In your epistle to Walker, here is a paragraph that caught my sharp attention.

You see? This mess was not caused by the children, nor caused by the kids in their twenties, nor those in their thirties, nor even those in their forties. This mess is the accumulation of a silent slide in morals and values and honesty and accountability that has accelerated gradually since 1930. In fact, it is a regular long-term cycle of man called the Kondratieff Wave………..as history repeats over and over, again.

Two points to be made, perhaps. One, the silent slide in morals and values etc. began with the trigger: founding of the Fed. Followed on by an unjust war. Followed on by a destruction of honest weights and measures that simply gained overpowering strength during the 1920s. Culminating in the economic collapse we call the Great Depression. By the time FDR, the biggest enemy of freedom this country has ever experienced, came into power (and it was power, much more than just a presidency), the ground had been tilled, fertilized and watered for the grandiose destruction of not just our freedoms but our very Republic. All that has been left to unfold is the cancer JP Morgan and his gang, Wilson, and then FDR, infected our society, culture and nation with to, as you put it, accelerate gradually. The recent exponential decline in our Republic is akin to the final stages of cancer, when a tipping point is reached and nothing can stop the multiplication of the deadly cancer cells.

I would be up for a fight. But simply am at a loss as to how to fight this. I wish the ignorant, those who choose to be and those who never stood a chance, no ill, for sure. I wish there was some Fairy Godmother that could wave a magic wand and protect them. Yet the same information I have, and you have, that we all have access to, is there for them. And many of us have carried coals of warning, of sirens, of great horn blasts trying to warn of pending disaster. Warnings to prepare, to wake up, to get smart, to assume the responsibility God gave them to be responsible, to be self-governed and not feed from the public trough. Too late, I fear, simply too late.

I have listened to the bubble heads steal the very crux of RP’s call to answer the question: what is the role of government? Only to then ignore the thought required, the implications, and keep on truckin’ down the fascist road. This is not as it appears, not a slippery slide into socialism, but a headlong rush into fascism, with the government and business in cahoots to line their pockets while harnessing the labor and freedom of the great unwashed, from thought police to a society and culture of fear, with the government always, always held out as the ultimate answer. Not a fascism like we saw with Hitler, but a fascism like Mussolini, only “better”, more powerful, more pervasive. The original abolishment of honest weights and measures, upon which all great nations and societies are built, began with that fateful gathering on Jekyll Island and will not end (if ever) until the enemies of honest money are dispersed from power and honest weights and measures restored.

Farmboy 21:01

There is so much wisdom in those words, shared with such insight, it humbles me. Although we have not had time to really know each other, I want you to know it is an honor to have shared those few moments we had. My feelings about those who have sacrificed so much for what probably was the last best hope for a nation with endless possibilities for a great future for mankind, have been written about many times here. It is with no joy that I leave this country and feel  a real loss for what I leave behind, for what my ancestors fought and died for, and ,yes, it is with some guilt that I leave, knowing the disastrous future we leave to those left behind. Yes-I too will gladly live with snakes, sand fleas, ants, hurricanes, and all that nature can bombard us with. It is man, his greed,, and the quest for power over others that I fear. If history has taught us anything, it is that humans can justify any atrocity to serve their own selfish, megalomoniacle drive. There are literally millions of examples of horrosr inflicted on others…all justified away by deranged minds. I have saved your 21:01 post-thank you for sharing in such an eloquent way.

Amen

As the hour approaches I take Farmgal in my arms and tell her that it’s going to be o.k …that we have a lot more at stake than just us…a hell of a lot more…and my gal looks at me ..nods approval..that’s all I need to press on harder.
Thank’s to all ,for without this tent the odds would have been very short indeed.

Equisetum @ 21:41 pm

Thank you friend. For allowing me to share a past evening, with a dear friend. Not sure we reached any real understandings,….seems, sometimes the past is like that.

I do thank you for sharing the stories of ole unfinished chairs, of Iron metal benches, of faith in woodpiles, and of life partners….that forgive you, for not knowing ‘how to dance’. (grin)

Thank you greatly, for your posts, and wisdom so freely shared. The hour is late tonight, and you will simply have to accept my words of gratitude. For explantation, ….well…let it be enough twixt us this evening…that word of thanks is in order. (And that understanding…’Amazing Grace’….is something I am still attempting to understand, and apply)

Best, and goodnight, Farmboy

Farmboy, Thank you for that explanation at 21:01 of how specially

you can relate to the exceedingly powerful message that comes through in Wintley Phipps’ explanation of the history of Amazing Grace and his  performance of Amazing Grace.  I can only imagine the meaning and emotion of what you shared with your friend on your trip to Florida, but I have related to your explanation of it.  Thank you again, and best wishes to you.  Equiz.

Happy Anniversary To the Tent and Cheers

“Heroes take journeys, confront dragons, and discover the treasure of their true selves.” Carol Lynn Pearson

To all the heroes of the Tent, we journey together, seeking together, whatsoever things are true.

Winedoc

“But Before I Will Be A Slave…I’ll Be Buried In My Grave…”

Circa….1966….the sounds, words of Freedom….still call, still sing thier song…?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcNN5SEb-Kg