There I did it kinda

hybrid version of its Mercedes-Benz flagship S-Class luxury sedan that uses a kind of battery already widely used in consumer electronics.Daimler said that it has adapted lithium-ion technology to meet demanding automotive requirements. Daimler said Friday the new battery will be used in the S 400 BlueHYBRID beginning next year.

“What we have here is a groundbreaking key technology that is going to be a decisive factor for the future success of the automotive industry,” Daimler Board of Management member Thomas Weber said in a statement.

Stuttgart, Germany-based Daimler’s announcement indicates an increase in confidence about lithium-ion technology. Other automakers are working on lithium-ion batteries.

Toyota Motor Corp. said in December it was preparing to start mass producing lithium-ion batteries for low-emission vehicles.

Lithium-ion batteries, already widely used in laptops and other gadgets, are smaller yet more powerful than the nickel-metal hydride batteries used in gas-electric hybrids like the Japanese automaker’s Prius.

General Motors Corp. is developing the Chevrolet Volt, an electric sedan to be recharged by plugging it into a household outlet. Plans call for it to be powered by an electric motor fed by lithium-ion batteries.

GM spokesman Brian Corbett said Saturday the Detroit-based automaker plans to make a major announcement Tuesday about hybrid technology at a press conference during the Geneva Motor Show.

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Watched 5 minutes of Saturday Nite Live

x_mon.jpg  And who shows up in person but Monica Lewinski ex-boyfriend’s wife.  Loud cheers and a big old smile on her face.  Thanks NBC owned an operated by General Electric.  “Spit”

Thank God for this forum and the honest minded souls that we all are.

goldielocks- March 1, 2008 at 22:38 pm

The battery market is also sound, with US sales of hybrid vehicles rocketing, due to high petrol prices and stricter emission targets. Cobalt is used in significant quantities in both nickel and lithium-ion batteries, which are the main technologies in use.

London, 21 February 2008 - Business in top-quality cobalt was taking place freely on Thursday at $52 a pound, the highest price paid since 1978, and, given the bullish sentiment and compelling fundamentals in the market, it is only a matter of time now before the all-time peak of $53.25 is exceeded.Today, traders were reporting 99.80 business at $52.00 a pound — with metal sold to consumers in Europe, as well as in the important Japanese market..

The free-market price for high-grade rose $0.50 to $51.50/52.50, while Russian 99.30 percent was around $46.00/48.00. The latest increase mirrored producer trends - earlier this week, producer BHP-Billiton sold five tonnes of 99.80 percent cobalt in Europe at $51.00 and hiked its offer by $1.50 a pound to $52.50 for five tonnes of February metal.

“The cobalt market seems to have broken out of its cage now,” a trader said.

During January the market had flat-lined after a sharp end-2007 rally, when prices rose 79 percent from nine-month lows of $24.00/25.00. But fundamentals are firm — supply is tight in the 65,000-tonne a year market and demand is racing ahead and a deficit is on the cards.

“It is a move up by steps now, which is healthy. What we saw allowed some people to take profits,” a senior trader said.

“Now we have the situation where the cheap metal is not there and the consumers who held off will have to come in and buy,” he added.

STRONG DEMAND PICTURE, SUPPLY TIGHT

Standard Chartered Bank said in a recent report that cobalt’s recent strength was due to a combination of factors, with demand consistently strong — the major drivers have been a boom in the aerospace sector, as well as rapid growth in Asia.

Airbus deliveries rose four percent, while Boeing deliveries jumped 11 percent. There is also a massive order backlog which represents pent up demand for cobalt. Airbus currently has a six year backlog, while Boeing has enough orders for five years.

The battery market is also sound, with US sales of hybrid vehicles rocketing, due to high petrol prices and stricter emission targets. Cobalt is used in significant quantities in both nickel and lithium-ion batteries, which are the main technologies in use.

The current tight supply picture could be exarcabated further if African production is hit by power problems. In Zambia, in late-January blackouts occured, and the state power utility Zesco had to ration electricity supplies, with copper producers curtailing output.

Cobalt is a by-product of the copperbelt producers — the Mopani mine has the capacity to produce 2,200 tonnes a year of metal, while Chambishi accounts for 2,500 tonnes. The operations may be running well below nameplate capacity, however — some traders said at 60 percent.

BUT AVAILABILITY WILL IMPROVE

Looking ahead, there will be a gradual improvement in cobalt production with the DRC, although dogged by political problems, likely to be at the forefront of this growth. Katanga started up its Luilu plant in late December 2007 with commercial production of copper starting this month — cobalt is a by-product and output for 2008 should reach 2,100 tonnes.

Other pending projects include Freeport McMoRan’s Tenke Fungurume mine, Nikanor’s KOV brownfield mine, Chambishi Metals’ new Mulyashi facility, CVRD’s Goro mine in New Caledonia and Sherrit’s Ambatovy mine in Madagascar.

Cobalt’s price spike to its all-time highs took place in mid-1978, when insurgents disrupted mining activity in the mineral-rich Shaba province of Zaire — now the DRC.

The country then was a major producer, along with Zambia, of copper and consequently by-product cobalt, so supply uncertainty had an explosive impact on the market — producer prices at the start of that year were just $6.85.

Although the market is now within sight of the record, in real-terms upside potential is much higher as $50 a pound is the equivalent of $123 now.

MinorMetals.com

Chart by Y2kdon

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kolton @ 23:30

“Bernanke wants banks to raise more capital so they can do more lending. He never bothered to ask this simple question: For What?”

Your Answer;

Winter is here again oh Lord,
Haven’t been home in a year or more
I hope she holds on a little longer
Sent a letter on a long summer day
Made of silver, not of clay
I’ve been runnin’ down this dusty road

[Chorus:]
Wheel in the sky keeps on turnin’
I don’t know where I’ll be tomorrow
Wheel in the sky keeps on turnin’

I’ve been trying to make it home
Got to make it before too long
I can’t take this very much longer
I’m stranded in the sleet and rain
Don’t think I’m ever gonna make it home again
The mornin’ sun is risin’
It’s kissing the day

[Chorus]

Wheel in the sky keeps on turnin’
I don’t know where I’ll be tomorrow
Wheel in the sky keeps on turnin’

PM_Energy…

Sometimes the simplest of explanations of human behavior are the most accurate.  There were points made in your referenced post which are well worth digesting.  For those who missed it…

http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com/home/Frontpage/2008/01/02/02073.html

Thanks…this tent gets better by the day.

Well just google

Dailmer plans new battery for hybird/ ect.  Others will follow Im sure. I just hope for our grand kids sake they figure something else out when all these resources are depleted.

Rathing interest point..

From Mish global economics. He is basically saying the Fed wants banks to loan money and get in the game…so he asks the question… For what???  cut and paste below:

 Things We Don’t Need

  • We do not need more Steak n Shakes (SNS), Pizza Huts (YUM), McDonald’s (MCD), Panera Breads (PNRA), Starbucks (SBUX) or any other restaurants for that matter.
  • We do not need more Wal-Mart (WMT), Target (TGT), Lowes (LOW), Home Depot (HD), Best Buy (BBY), or Bed Bath and Beyond (BBBY) stores.
  • We do not need more Toyota (TM) dealers, GM dealers, or Ford (F) dealers).
  • We do not need more nail salons, dry cleaners, movie rental places, storage facilities, etc.
  • We do not need more houses from Toll Brothers (TOLL), Beazer (BZH), Hovnanian (HOV), Lennar (LEN), Pulte (PHM), Centex (CTX) or Ryland (RYL) . Inventory of houses is at an all time high.

Bernanke wants banks to raise more capital so they can do more lending. He never bothered to ask this simple question: For What?

Humanoid and all lol

Yeah I know all about it, worked in phsyc for awhile till they started making sense.lol yeah and to be safe better get a EKG before u take it. Ill see if I can find that page and paste it, since I identified myself as a female u might think Im someone not to take cereal. lol

Fullgold

EEL.V might be one of interest..it has a whole lot of metals including lithium in san something area where big companys are moving in..Gasprom petrobras ect. How can a US..er buy it..me.. a little here and there? In Boliva..where the most lithium is from..isn’t fmnj in boliva too? But mining metals.

winedoc..someone said

i took my injection of lithium today and we both slept….but it was only one dose? toon20.gifwj

Lithium Ha Ha

Lithium carbonate is used as a mood stabilizer in bipolar (manic depressive) disorders, especially for treating acute mania.

I’d rather be known for my coffee, we’ll have to talk

Winedoc

Fully - might be of interest

oops How to prolong lithium-based batteries (BU34)

Battery research is focusing heavily on lithium chemistries, so much so that one could presume that all portable devices will be powered with lithium-ion batteries in the future. In many ways, lithium-ion is superior to nickel and lead-based chemistries and the applications for lithium-ion batteries are growing as a result.

Lithium-ion has not yet fully matured and is being improved continuously. New metal and chemical combinations are being tried every six months to increase energy density and prolong service life. The improvements in longevity after each change will not be known for a few years.

The term “lithium battery” refers to a family of different chemistries, comprising many types of cathodes and electrolytes. One type of lithium cell having a large energy density is the lithium-thionyl chloride cell. In this cell, a liquid mixture of thionyl chloride and lithium tetrachloroaluminate acts as the cathode and electrolyte respectively. A porous carbon material serves as a anode current collector which receives electrons from the external circuit. However, lithium-thionyl chloride batteries are generally not sold to the consumer market, and find more use in commercial/industrial applications, or are installed into devices where no consumer replacement is performed. Lithium-thionyl chloride batteries are well suited to extremely low-current applications where long life is necessary, e.g. wireless alarm systems.The most common type of lithium cell used in consumer applications uses metallic lithium as anode and manganese dioxide as cathode, with a salt of lithium dissolved in an organic solvent.”

Oh, great!

Now that you guys have been posting about Irish’s driving habits, even car batteries need anti-depressants…………next it will be the river by the Flintstones pit.

factsmatter - re: Switzerland

Thanks very much for your response!

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Winedoc..tell us what you use Lithium for and we’ll put it o the sidebar

:)