Finally, after all these years of struggling with questions on Gold Forum, and more recently on

Goldtent, about how to relate things on the general stock market to the price of gold, suddenly I see it all laid out clearly for me, as quoted from PMFEVER  in the link below from his 23:23 posting of 11 March 2008.  Now I understand.  

“Thus, if you look at a chart of the Dow divided by $Gold, you strip out the effects of the US Dollar against each the Dow and Gold, and are left with the Dow index with no Dollar effect divided by Gold with no Dollar effect.  Thus, we see a very different picture if we strip out the effect of the devalued US Dollar.  For instance, if we look at the chart of the Dow we see that the Dow is even with the 2000 top and down about 18% from the higher 2007 highs.  If we look at the $Dow divided by $Gold we see that the Dow is down about 73% from the 2000 top for the Dow against “constant” Gold.  There is your crash.  The crash is in the Dow is the Dow against inflation, but the falling Dollar “supports” the price of the Dow chart as it is charted as the Dow divided by US Dollars, or $Dow.  The look of the $Dow divided by $Gold looks much more like the picture of the Dow in 1929, with more movement to go still.”

Got that.  Go Gold !!!!    <g>

Maya @ 22:25 pm on March 11, 2008

Thanks for that post.  Here is a link from an Associated Press story that ran in our local paper about how the recession is affecting some retaillers.

www.thestar.com/article/331945

And another AP story that offers some insight, about the effects of the credit markets on just about everything.

www.thestar.com/article/331968

Hasty………Well, think of it this way…..

PM - Ha! I posted earlier that I thought the Dow would go to 8000

by hastyActs @ 18:21 pm.

or much lower before going to 16,000, so I gave the hint that I think gold 8400/dow8400 might happen. Actually, though, I have serious doubt about the dow holding together to that extent.  In any event, I expect the action to Dow to lose over a much longer period than just four years. I don’t know if I expect gold to peak that quickly, either. What do you think is going to happen after 2012? Do you think the economy will get better? I’m afraid I’m more apocalyptic in my vision.”

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Hasty, it gets a bit comfusing when one looks at the Dow index in $ terms.  For instance, Gold is up from around $250 to around $1,000, but has the value of $Gold really changed?  Isn’t it true that $Gold over any long period of time a constant- a foundation of security to hold the value of one’s wealth when trust for paper is dissipating/ eroding?  So, how much of that move in $Gold is merely due to the drop in the US dollar?  I suspect nearly all of it since the US Dollar had dropped from around 120 down to around 73, but the loss in the US Dollar is not “symmetrical” to the percentage loss in the US Dollar value, but logarithmic.  Another way to say it is that the gains in $Gold are simply the result of US Dollar inflation.

Thus, if you look at a chart of the Dow divided by $Gold, you strip out the effects of the US Dollar against each the Dow and Gold, and are left with the Dow index with no Dollar effect divided by Gold with no Dollar effect.  Thus, we see a very different picture if we strip out the effect of the devalued US Dollar.  For instance, if we look at the chart of the Dow we see that the Dow is even with the 2000 top and down about 18% from the higher 2007 highs.  If we look at the $Dow divided by $Gold we see that the Dow is down about 73% from the 2000 top for the Dow against “constant” Gold.  There is your crash.  The crash is in the Dow is the Dow against inflation, but the falling Dollar “supports” the price of the Dow chart as it is charted as the Dow divided by US Dollars, or $Dow.  The look of the $Dow divided by $Gold looks much more like the picture of the Dow in 1929, with more movement to go still.

That is why we must consider the comparison to the 1970’s because the same thing happened.  The Dow only dropped about 40% overall on the chart of the $Dow, but during that same period the US Dollar index fell considerably. thus the $Dow divided by $Gold chart moved back toward 1:1 in that period, also.  Thus, a chart of the $Dow divided by $Gold is down by about 73% as we speak so if US Dollar inflation continues we will be heading toward a crash of th Dow since 2000 of over 90%.  That would mirror 1929.

If the US Dollar inflation continues, then other countries will be forced to more aggressively devalue their currencies, also- global competitive currency devaluation.  That occured/ increased in the 1970’s stagflation at around the time of the my comparison in the $Gold chart of the next intermediate-term top in $Gold.  Once other countries start to devalue their currencies more aggressively, then the value of the US Dollar as against a basket of currencies will start to drop less, or stabilize as in the late 1970’s.  In the late 1970s into the parabola of $Gold, the US Dollar started to rise versus the basket of currencies.  When the US Dollar starts to rise, it has the reverse effect against the Dow, but foreigners can buy the Dow if they think it is then undervalued (After a more than 90% decline) to invest in the Dow, but also to gain by the rising  US Dollar.  If foreigners think that the Fed will back the US Dollar with Gold, that would be very supportive of the US Dollar at some point, and might see foreign money move back in fairly aggressively.  If at some point the Fed actually backs the US Dollar with Gold, then at that point there would be much less fluctuation in the US Dollar versus $Gold, and the risk to foreigners in terms of the US Dollar dropping would be removed.  If one’s own currency is still falling, the foreigners would see $anything rising.

That’s the best I can do, right now, off the top of my head…………..but with a look at that Dow chart that TFH showed with the Dow whipsawing to higher highs and lower lows in the 1970’s- that might be a fairly close approximation to what we will see continue to play out today in the “regular” $Dow chart…………even though the Dow continues to crash by over 90% against Gold.

? Another “fairytale fractal” playing out before your eyes?  Well, the similarities are certainly, there, but I would have to take a very close look to see how close the similarities are since, IMO, a fractal is when similarities mimic to a very high “degree.”

strikerrod @ 21:44 pm.

I don’t in any way, shape or form consider myself to be an expert, but I will take a stab at sharing some of my feelings and/or opinions as they relate to some of the questions and concerns you have raised, ok?

~ ~ ~

strikerrod: “I’m just trying to get some “guidance” so I can plan accordingly …. especially for the long term (2 to 4 years out). I guess what I’m looking for is ”how” and not ”specific timing” the pm cycles should play out.”

JBI: I believe the trend is UP, that we are in a “once in a lifetime BULL market”, that has not even reached middle age yet…I am fully committed to natural resources, heavily favoring the precious metals (GOLD and Silver), PM stocks, energy stocks and a few other resource stocks. “HOW” it will play out is not important to me as long as I am long term oriented and as long as I believe that this “Mother of All Bull Markets” is alive and well. I constantly exercise “gut checks” of my conviction, reasons for having made the investments I’ve made, read as much as I can and, once in awhile, I step back and smell the roses. I lean toward T.A. and have very simple indicators (eg. 300 DMA) that have been true to me and kept me in now for years.

strikerrod: “1. The next “big” move (hopefully soon) …. should take us to (a) approx. what gold price & HUI value (b) will this “move” be over a period of weeks or months?”

JBI: “Hopefully soon”, YES, but none of us can really tell with certainty, can we? Is your objective as an investor in the PMs really “long term”? Is your conviction and committment solid as a rock? Then just sit tight and watch this BULL do its thing. It will try to shake off as many of us as possible before reaching its destination, which I believe to be much much higher than where we are now. Personally, I’ve been concentrating on the physical for more than a year now, having taken profits on a few stock positions and immediately turning it into more physical, such as junk silver, silver eagles and some gold coins. What gold price and/or HUI value, you ask? I don’t know. Really. I speculate and comment on that from time to time like many others, but I just don’t think that I am smart or lucky enough to be able to give a specific target along with a time frame. So I continue to follow the trend, I hold, gasping from time to time, but mostly smiling.

strikerrod: “2. Once achieved … I believe we then go into a “correction” (a) will this correction be short lived or can we expect a long one like we have just experienced …. think pm stocks here. (b) will this be wave 4 of whatever that posters speak of (the down turn) before the final wave 5 “blow-off”.

JBI: I really have no idea and have given up on trying to guess every turn. If I am really “long term” oriented, why bother? And if I don’t need the proceeds, and I don’t care to share my profits with Uncle Sam and I believe that, after any future and inevitable corrections, PMs and PM stocks will eventually go higher and within my lifetime, why be corcerned with such matters? Yes, when the PM stocks are at all time highs in general and as the bull matures, I will most likely continue to take some profits from some of my PM stock positions, but only to flip them over to the physical. I do believe that the final blowoff is years away so I don’t burden myself with even thinking about a major top in either the PMs or PM stocks for now. If you twist my arm, though, I say $2,200 GOLD, at minimum, sometime in next few years. I’m sorry that I cannot be more specific than that, but like I said, I just don’t believe that I am that lucky and/or smart. Wave count? I’ll just say that I believe Primary Waves 3 & 5 in a major “once in a lifetime” commodities Bull Market are the most exciting, profitable ones and I believe that BOTH are still ahead of us.

I think I’ve given you enough for now and hope that it helps. But I also believe that you are more than capable of doing just fine on your own. Keep reading, exercise those “gut checks” from time to time, have faith, revisit your convictions and, above all, try not to miss a day at our TENT. You’ll do just fine, friend.

Best wishes!

JBI

Great Question Strikerrod

Like you, I have less experience with these things than most. I think it’s safe to say that even the experienced guys really have no idea this time around.

   The thing that strikes me as odd is that metals have been leading the stocks during this modest rally. That has not been the case - at least as far as I remember - during the last couple of good runs in both the large caps and small caps.

   I’m sorta thinking that this upleg hasn’t really started yet and may not really get going until we see more action like todays’ where the metals were flat but the stocks up nicely.  Since we haven’t seen the stocks leading, I tend to think that this time around the upleg may take a little longer to play itself out, maybe grind slowly higher before really taking off. I dunno, but I think we’ve got a ways to go here. JMHO.

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Issue 735 March 11, 2008

UPSIDE-DOWN MORTGAGES AND SINKING HOME PRICES

An upside-down mortgage is a mortgage for which the
home owner owes more on the mortgage than the home is
worth.

According to a report on the CBS TV “Early Morning
Show” on March 10, if house prices fall another 10%
nationally, 20 million households will be in an upside-down
condition.

As of the year 2000, at the last census, there were 83
million residential properties. Almost 68 million were
owner-occupied. Of these 68 million properties, 67% had a
first mortgage. So, about 45 million homes had mortgages.

www.garynorth.com/snip/514.htm

If the 20 million figure is correct, then about 43% of
all mortgage-owing households would be stuck with
underwater mortgages. But this assumes conditions of 2000,
before the really maniacal phase of bubble took place.

The source of this estimate was not identified on the
broadcast. It may be wildly pessimistic, but I doubt it.
Millions of home owners have borrowed on their home equity
since 2000. When people have sold their homes at a profit,
they have moved up — more expensive homes, more debt.

Lenders will not lend money to families whose
collateral is a home on which the mortgage owed exceeds the
market value of the home. This will put a crimp in
consumer spending. It will make the transition to a new
capital structure — the recession — that much worse.

There are three other factors to consider. First, the
actual sale prices of these homes will be lower than the
listed prices — maybe substantially lower. It already
takes almost a year to sell a home nationally. This delay
period is going to get longer. Those who need to sell will
take lower prices.

Second, the appraisal agencies are in panic mode,
fearful of lawsuits for overinflated prices. They are
cutting appraised values. This is possible for them
because, with liquidity gone, homes are staying on the
market far longer. Appraisers are assuming the worst
regarding market value. The appraised value is the “sold
today” value. That is a discounted value.

Third, it costs $50,000 to foreclose on a house.
Incredible, isn’t it? The lenders made loans on the
assumption that they would not have to foreclose to get the
properties back. Now that assumption is seen as naive.
Owners can live rent-free simply by paying property taxes.

The recession has only just begun. The number of
abandoned homes is rising. The holders of these now-dead
mortgages cannot get renters in fast enough. Weather and
vandalism and crackheads are now threatening the collateral
of the loans even before foreclosure.

Will home prices nationally fall by 10%? There are no
signs today that they will not fall this year through 2009
because of ARM mortgage interest rate re-sets. At the
margin, home prices will fall, which will force appraisers
to lower appraised value, which will lower what lenders are
willing to lend.

I think 10% is a low-ball estimate.

BUT IS HOUSING REALLY A BUBBLE?

Why do I think it’s a bubble? Because it has these
characteristics:

1. Funded by extensive leverage (debt)
2. Carry-trade: borrowed short and lent long
3. Widespread belief that it is not a bubble
4. A huge percentage of borrowers
5. Faith that the government can protect debtors
6. Economists deny it is a bubble

The Federal government and its licensed agency, the
Federal Reserve System, have combined to create the
ultimate economic bubble: the residential housing market.
Other national governments have done the same thing. The
housing bubble is now international, but especially in
English-speaking nations.

The U.S. government has created an economic illusion,
namely, that the two government sponsored enterprises
(GSE’s), the Federal National Mortgage Association (Fannie
Mae) and the Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation
(Freddie Mac), are agencies of the U.S. government. They
are not.

One piece of evidence for a bubble that I take
seriously is provided in the 2007 annual report of Freddie
Mac. The Chairman began his lengthy message with this
admission, signed on February 28, 2008.

In 2007, our sector suffered the most severe
housing correction since the Great Depression.
In my 35 years as an economist, central banker,
regulator and businessman, I have never witnessed
a situation quite like this one — in which a
housing bubble has played such a central role in
bringing the world’s largest economy to the brink
of recession.

GaryNorth.com/snip/512.htm

But this is a concealed bubble. This makes it unique.
How is it concealed?

1. No market index for housing in general
2. Extensive reservation demand: owners won’t sell
3. Illusion that GSE’s are legally protected by the
Federal government

The Federal government created both organizations,
then let them become private, profit-seeking corporations.
They both can borrow at below-market rates because of their
special relationship with the Federal government. The
question is this: To what extent will Congress be pressured
by constituents to bail out these forms in a true freeze-up
in the mortgage credit markets?

This is a crucial question. These firms together own
40% of all mortgages in the U.S. The total value of these
mortgages is equal to the total annual production,
including government, of the United States — over $11
trillion.

The Investopedia site provides these insights into the
two organizations.

Both companies have a board of directors made up
of 18 members, five of which are appointed by the
president of the United States.

To support their liquidity, the secretary of the
Treasury is authorized, but not required, to
purchase up to $2.25 billion of securities from
each company.

Both companies are exempt from state and local
taxes.

Because of these ties, the market tends to
believe that the securities issued by Fannie Mae
and Freddie Mac carry the implied guarantee of
the U.S. government. In other words, the market
believes that if anything were to go wrong at
Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac, the U.S. government
would step in to bail them out. This implicit
guarantee is reflected by how cheaply they are
able to access funding. Fannie Mae and Freddie
Mac are able to issue corporate debt, known as
“agency debentures”, at yields lower than other
institutions.

www.garynorth.com/snip/513.htm

The idea that $2.25 billion could do anything to bail
out a pair of companies holding mortgages with over $4
trillion gives some idea of the bubble mentality of
investors in the two organizations. That Congress would
add to this credit line in a national crisis is politically
obvious. That Congress could and would pony up an extra
trillion dollars is something else again.

WHAT IF THE GSE’S LOCK UP?

The GSE’s primary role is to provide liquidity in the
secondary mortgage markets. Loan originators sell the
mortgages to the GSE’s. What happens of investors in these
agencies decide that these two behemoths are too illiquid
to continue to make purchases of mortgages? That will end
the mortgage market’s liquidity overnight.

In the first week of March, the interest rate spread
between agency-backed mortgage bonds and T-bonds reached
the highest level in 20 years. Twenty years ago, the
United States was in the middle of the S&L crisis.

Meanwhile, non-GSE lenders have ceased to lend. In
2000, the GSE’s accounted for 40% of mortgages. According
to the Housing Wire site,

Both Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac accounted for a
record 76.1 percent of new mortgage-backed
securities issued in the fourth quarter, a number
than industry sources say is likely to reach well
above 80 percent to start 2008. Some have even
suggested that the GSEs may end up owning as much
as 90 percent of the lending market before this
year is out.

www.garynorth.com/snip/515.htm

The American housing market is now almost completely
dependent on two non-government agencies that are widely
regarded as government agencies. These two agencies are
facing the most risky market in their history.

William Poole, president of the Federal Reserve Bank
of St. Louis, offered this assessment on February 29: “I am
more skeptical of the financial strength of the GSEs, and
believe that we could see substantial problems in that
sector.” He is concerned about the fall in home prices in
cities such as Phoenix, San Diego, Las Vegas, Miami, and
Detroit. These declines have not been offset by increases
in other cities.

I do not have any information on the GSEs that
the market does not also have. Nevertheless, in
assessing the risk of further credit disruptions
this year, I would put the GSEs at the top of my
list of sources of potentially serious problems.
If those problems were realized, they would be a
direct result of moral hazard inherent in the
current structure of the GSEs.

But can’t the Federal Reserve intervene and bail out
these agencies? He doesn’t think so. “As I have
emphasized before, the Federal Reserve can deal with
liquidity pressures but cannot deal with solvency issues.”

www.garynorth.com/snip/516.htm

Solvency issues are at the heart of this recession:
the solvency of home borrowers and, by implication, the
solvency of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

The FED can always monetize both organizations’
inventory of mortgages. This would solve the solvency
problem of both organizations, if such insolvency ever
threatens their survival. Poole has not yet discussed in
public this fall-back position of the Federal Reserve.

Consider this anonymous assessment of what we are now
facing.

“Imagine a sinking ship with only two lifeboats,
and that the sinking ship would need closer to 50
lifeboats for everyone on board,” said one
source, a manager at a large independent lender
who asked not to be named. “Those two lifeboats
may be the best on the planet, but it won’t
matter much if everyone tries to pile onto them,
which is exactly what’s happening right now.”

www.garynorth.com/snip/515.htm

In his 13-page message to Freddie Mac shareholders,
the chairman tried to make the best of a $3 billion loss,
compared with $3 billion profit in 2006. He ended with a
note of optimism: rising long-term demand for homes.

As Freddie Mac shareholders, you have shown
extraordinary patience in an extraordinary time.
But let’s remember that for all that has changed,
very important long-term aspects of demography
and demand have not changed — and are positive.

This is true. There is demand. People want to buy
homes. The question is: Who is going to lend money to them
at rates that have prevailed under the Greenspan era?
Where are the GSE’s going to get lenders to forfeit access
to their money for 30 years at 6%?

America remains a growing developed nation: one
with relatively high rates of birth, immigration
and household formation. Long-term demand for
housing finance will remain strong. And now,
having built a firm foundation, Freddie Mac is
positioned like very few other companies to
benefit from the inevitable recovery of housing
in this country.

But when will this recovery take place? After what
percentage of decline in housing prices? Are they headed
back to where they were in 1995? If not, why not? He
ended with these words:

So thank you for your fortitude and confidence in
Freddie Mac. During this difficult time for
housing and the economy, rarely have they been as
needed or as beneficial for our nation. Yet also,
from my perspective, rarely as well justified.

Fortitude and confidence are indeed great things, as
General Custer no doubt remarked to his troops.

From my perspective, I see a lot of Indians.

CONCLUSION

We are now facing the previously unthinkable: a real
lock-up of the mortgage market, followed by a sharp decline
in housing prices. This would produce dramatic capital
losses. It would reverse the wealth effect. The wealth
effect is the emotional effect of a person’s equity any
party of his portfolio. He feels richer. He spends more.
He saves less.

The poverty effect reverses this mentality. He spends
less. He saves more.

The transition period is what we call a recession.
Capital values in formerly booming markets fall rapidly.
There is a rush for liquidity and safety.

We are seeing this in T-bill rates, which have been
under 1.5% this month. This does not compensate investors
for losses to inflation and income taxes. When people move
to T-bills below the FedFunds rate, they are scared. This
includes bankers who are borrowing from the FED at 3% and
lending to the Treasury at 1.5%. They are taking a beating
on their profit and loss statements, but not so great a
beating as their balance sheets will take if they hang onto
the mortgages that they are unloading on the FED at the TAF
(term auction facility) window.

The housing bubble has burst where it was most
prominent. There is no sign that housing prices have begun
to rise there. When they do, and when this lasts a year,
the rest of the country will be able to breathe more
easily. That is not now.

floridagold 22:01

yep different crooks but i’ll give odds much the same ‘bloodlines’.
sorta a ‘bilderbugger council on foreign relatives tri-lateral commune’ kinda!
can you spare a smiley guiltine? wj

I would expect that Eliot Spitzer, if he didnt have his mind on other things, could have got to the

bottom of the uncomfortable situation described today by Paul Farrell on jsmineset (article titled ‘Derivatives, the new ticking bomb’), where Farrell mentions that “Data on the five-fold growth in derivatives to $516 trillion in five years comes from the most recent survey by the Bank of International Settlements, the world’s clearinghouse for central banks in Basel, Switzerland.  The BIS is like the cashier’s window at a racetrack or casino, where you’d place a bet or cash in chips, except on a massive scale.  BIS is where the U.S. settles trade imbalances with Saudi Arabia for all that oil we guzzle and gives China IOSs for the tainted drugs and lead-based toys we buy.” 

If Mr. Spitzer  ends up hunting for a new job there could be work opportunities to make sure  that BIS is  riding herd on any  unshady dealings, a subject he focussed on in recent years in North American financial and  securities organizations.

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Issue 734                                     March 7, 2008

BERNANKE ON THE MORTGAGE MARKET HOUSE OF CARDS

The worst is not behind us.  The worst is yet to come.
I have this on the highest authority — from the man who
has openly admitted that his organization has no solutions
to offer except month-old data on the extent of the housing
crisis.

When the public at last figures the out, there will be
financial blood in the streets.

When I first read Ben Bernanke’s March 4 speech, I was
amazed at how gloomy he was in full public view.  He
concealed this gloominess with academic bloviation, which
is his version of Greenspan’s FedSpeak.  But if you pay
attention to what he says, you can find out much of what he
is thinking.  This was not true with Greenspan.

Bernanke spoke on the need for banks to reduce
interest rates for busted home owners.  This indicates just
how scared he is.  To argue for a rewriting of millions of
contracts to favor debtors is one more example of the
asymmetric nature of mortgages.  Lenders lose; debtors win.

His long, tedious, and thoroughly academic speech
revealed an academic economist whose career has not yet hit
the inevitable brick wall: the unforgiving realities of
capital markets, contracts, and an economic crisis.  He may
still believe that footnotes will save his reputation.
They won’t.

He is presiding over a stock market decline that
threatens to turn into a collapse.  Yet he pretends that
being a boring professor in public will somehow calm
international stock markets.  It won’t.

Greenspan was incoherent.  Bernanke is boring.  His
rhetorical strategy in his speeches is to drone on and on
about what is now obvious to all of his listeners.  He
thereby avoids concentrating on looming disasters that are
not yet obvious to his listeners.  But, unlike Greenspan,
he eventually does hint at what is not yet obvious.  I slog
through his speeches in search of those hints.

Bernanke’s public strategy for the last six months has
been to offer a series of detailed analyses of how the
horses got out of the barn.  He has no clue as to how to
get them back in.

REDUCING PREVENTABLE MORTGAGE FORECLOSURES

The mortgage market, as we all know, is the heart of
the current problem.  It is a gigantic carry trade market,
and it always has been.  Mortgage lenders are borrowed
short and lent long, which is the essence of the carry
trade.  Now this trade has been disrupted because what
should have been obvious in 2005: the inability of subprime
borrowers to pay off their loans.  This has become public
knowledge.  The mortgage lenders cannot raise the short-
term capital necessary for the game to go on as before.

Here is what is obvious to most investors at this
point.

Over the past year and a half, mortgage
delinquencies have increased sharply, especially
among riskier loans.  This development has
triggered a substantial and broad-based
reassessment of risk in financial markets, and it
has exacerbated the contraction in the housing
sector.  In my remarks today, I will discuss the
causes of the distress in the mortgage sector and
then turn to the key question of what can be done
in this environment to reduce preventable
foreclosures.

This newly reassessed risk is based on a discovery,
namely, that Greenspan’s ludicrously loose monetary
policies, 2000-2003, have led to a housing bubble crisis.
But Bernanke will never admit this in public.

He is now in search of new suppliers of pools of
capital who are willing to rush in and bail out the
mortgage lending market.  Who wants to be first?  Nobody.
But the crisis will get much worse if lenders don’t enter
this market to provide loans for visible deadbeat
borrowers.  This must be done very soon.

If the deadbeats walk away from their homes, and if
new lenders are not found to fund replacement owners,
America will experience hundreds of billions of dollars of
property equity decline by the end of 2009.  He will not
say this directly, but this is the problem.  Squatters and
the weather will take over occupancy.

Who, then, should rush in where angels fear to tread?
Local banks, says Bernanke.  They did not create the
crisis, but they must solve it.

Although I am aware, as you are, that community
banks originated few subprime mortgages,
community bankers are keenly interested in these
issues; foreclosures not only create personal and
financial distress for individual homeowners but
also can significantly hurt neighborhoods where
foreclosures cluster.  Efforts by both government
and private-sector entities to reduce unnecessary
foreclosures are helping, but more can, and
should, be done.  Community bankers are well
positioned to contribute to these efforts, given
the strong relationships you have built with your
customers and your communities.

Local bankers got out of the home mortgage market two
decades ago, after the savings & loan debacle took its
toll.  Government-guaranteed mortgage lenders entered,
pooling trillions of dollars of mortgages based on a broad
geographical base of loans from around the country.  This
was done in the name of asset diversification.  It also cut
costs of local monitoring.  The statisticians assessed the
risk, and nobody was hired locally to monitor the loans and
collect monthly payments.  So, local banks took commissions
for originating loans locally and then passed the loans on
to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

Local banks went into commercial real estate instead.
Their banks are now at risk.  The Comptroller of the
Currency, John Dugan, on January 31 gave a speech to the
Florida Bankers Association.  He made this unsettling
observation.

Over a third of the nation’s community banks have
commercial real estate concentrations exceeding
300 percent of their capital, and almost 30
percent have construction and development loans
exceeding 100 percent of capital.

Here in Florida, as in other states where housing
is so important to local economic growth, the
concentration levels are more pronounced. Over 60
percent of Florida banks have CRE loans exceeding
300 percent of capital, and more than half have
C&D loans exceeding 100 percent of capital.

www.GaryNorth.com/snip/511.htm

When the commercial real estate market begins to fall
in the recession, as it will, local banks will have their
hands full.  Where will they get the capital to head off
foreclosures in the residential estate market?

So, no one is available locally to monitor the empty
houses or screen replacement home owners.  The cost of
monitoring is rising.  The number of people locally to do
the job has declined.

Bernanke now thinks that local banks are ready,
willing, and able to take over their old tasks.  But how?
No one has been trained to do this for 20 years.  The
people with these skills have retired.  The local banks got
cut out of the mortgage market except as loan originators,
which economic idiots could do, and did.

Why would any local bank step in now?  Not to get
rich, surely.  Only to keep from getting poorer in a
national banking crisis.  Here is Bernanke’s message:
“Heads, you lost; tails, you will lose even more.  Step
right up!  This way to the guillotine!”

Then he went into his now-famous “Let me give you a
history of the foul-up instead of offering a solution”
routine.  Or, as I have often described it, blah, blah,
blah.

MORTGAGE DELINQUENCIES AND FORECLOSURES

Here is what we all know.  So, he calls it to our
attention.

Mortgage delinquencies began to rise in mid-2005
after several years at remarkably low levels.
The worst payment problems have been among
subprime adjustable-rate mortgages (subprime
ARMs); more than one-fifth of the 3.6 million
loans outstanding were seriously delinquent at
the end of 2007.1  Delinquency rates have also
risen for other types of mortgages, reaching 8
percent for subprime fixed-rate loans and 6
percent on adjustable-rate loans securitized in
alt-A pools. . . .

Boring.  Useless.  Irrelevant.  In other words, a
Ph.D. academic economist’s career strategy.  “Bore them
into submission.”  It won’t work.

It’s going to get worse, he says.  Yes, he says this
in a boring way.  Pay attention anyway.  Watch for key
phrases, such as this one: “some further declines in house
prices are likely.”  They surely are!

Delinquencies and foreclosures likely will
continue to rise for a while longer, for several
reasons.  First, supply-demand imbalances in many
housing markets suggest that some further
declines in house prices are likely, implying
additional reductions in borrowers’ equity.
Second, many subprime borrowers are facing
imminent resets of the interest rates on their
mortgages.

Ed McMahon used to ask Johnny Carson, “How bad is it?”
Bernanke plays the role of Carson, but without the humor.

In 2008, about 1-1/2 million loans, representing
more than 40 percent of the outstanding stock of
subprime ARMs, are scheduled to reset.  We
estimate that the interest rate on a typical
subprime ARM scheduled to reset in the current
quarter will increase from just above 8 percent
to about 9-1/4 percent, raising the monthly
payment by more than 10 percent, to $1,500 on
average.  Declines in short-term interest rates
and initiatives involving rate freezes will
reduce the impact somewhat, but interest rate
resets will nevertheless impose stress on many
households.

In other words, we have not yet begun to see the
carnage in the subprime market.  The problem is
refinancing.  No one wants to lend strapped, stressed
debtors any more money.

In the past, subprime borrowers were often able
to avoid resets by refinancing, but currently
that avenue is largely closed.  Borrowers are
hampered not only by their lack of equity but
also by the tighter credit conditions in mortgage
markets.  New securitizations of nonprime
mortgages have virtually halted, and commercial
banks have tightened their standards, especially
for riskier mortgages.  Indeed, the available
evidence suggests that private lenders are
originating few nonprime loans at any terms.

This situation calls for a vigorous response.

Ah, yes, the ever-popular “vigorous response.”  And
what has the FED’s response been?  To deflate.  The
financial press has not yet caught on.  The FED has not
inflated.  It has deflated.

www.GaryNorth.com/public/3118.cfm

What additional vigorous response does Bernanke have
in mind?  Administered how?  How fast?  With who in charge?
Using what for money?  At whose expense?

Here comes neighborhood blight, like a thief in the
night.  Here comes the collapse of collateral for millions
of bonehead loans.

At the level of the individual community,
increases in foreclosed-upon and vacant
properties tend to reduce house prices in the
local area, affecting other homeowners and
municipal tax bases.  At the national level, the
rise in expected foreclosures could add
significantly to the inventory of vacant unsold
homes–already at more than 2 million units at
the end of 2007–putting further pressure on
house prices and housing construction.

He said steps are underway to solve this problem.  He
gives no proof of how these steps can work or if they are
working now.  He said: “Policymakers and stakeholders have
been working to find effective responses to the increases
in delinquencies and foreclosures.”  Oh, yeah?  So what?

There is a big and growing problem.  This problem was
created by loose money policies under Greenspan and by
national mortgage lending agencies (GSE’s).  But the
economic hit will be taken locally.  “Troubled borrowers
will always require individual attention, and the most
immediate impacts of foreclosures are on local communities.
Thus, the support of counselors, lenders, and organizations
with local ties is critical.”  But where are these local
agencies?  What incentives do they have to step in?

In short, forget about the busted borrowers.  What
about the troubled lenders?  Busted and troubled lenders?
Who is going to finance borrowers who have no credit, no
extra money, and no jobs in a recession?

“O course, care must be taken in designing solutions.”
Spoken like a true academic.  What care?  Administered by
whom?  “Solutions should also be prudent and consistent
with the safety and soundness of the lender.”  Like what,
for instance?

Bernanke then droned on and on about the Federal
Housing Administration’s plans, as if the FHA had money to
solve the problem, as if the FHA were involved in this
massive pile of bad mortgage loans.  The FHA is a
peripheral player, yet this is the main government agency
in the housing loan market.  So, he talked about the
toothless FHA.  This indicates that the government has no
tools or plans to intervene.  But what else could he have
done?  He dared not admit that the government has
insufficient money and leverage to solve this crisis.

He then called for a vague “loss-mitigation
arrangements.”  Like what?  Administered by whom locally?
At whose expense?  With losses to be borne by whom?

In cases where refinancing is not possible, the
next-best solution may often be some type of
loss-mitigation arrangement between the lender
and the distressed borrower.  Indeed, the Federal
Reserve and other regulators have issued guidance
urging lenders and servicers to pursue such
arrangements as an alternative to foreclosure
when feasible and prudent.

Guidelines?  That was what the mortgage industry
needed ten years ago.

The response system is running out of time, yet
foreclosure costs are high — thousands of dollars per home
– and the courts are jammed.  Meanwhile, an empty house
falls in value within weeks, as crackheads or weather take
their toll.

You want to know what is coming?  This: gigantic
equity losses.  Yes, Bernanke is boring.  Read him anyway.
The financial media are not reporting on this.

Loss mitigation is made more attractive by the
fact that foreclosure costs are often
substantial.  Historically, the foreclosure
process has usually taken from a few months up to
a year and a half, depending on state law and
whether the borrower files for bankruptcy.  The
losses to the lender include the missed mortgage
payments during that period, taxes, legal and
administrative fees, real estate owned (REO)
sales commissions, and maintenance expenses.
Additional losses arise from the reduction in
value associated with repossessed properties,
particularly if they are unoccupied for some
period.

He was talking about abandoned homes and equity
losses.  This is happening already.  This is not a maybe.
This is a sure thing.  The loss of equity will undermine
the loans.  Look at his estimate: 50% of principal balance.

A recent estimate based on subprime mortgages
foreclosed in the fourth quarter of 2007
indicated that total losses exceeded 50 percent
of the principal balance, with legal, sales, and
maintenance expenses alone amounting to more than
10 percent of principal. With the time period
between the last mortgage payment and REO
liquidation lengthening in recent months, this
loss rate will likely grow even larger.
Moreover, as the time to liquidation increases,
the uncertainty about the losses increases as
well.

Who is going to write new loans at anything like
today’s home prices?  Nobody who is not already stuck with
the bad loan.  But these lenders are running short of
capital.

I love the man’s use of language.  Consider the words
“limited” and “considerable.”  He seeks to convey calm.
The reality of what he is describing does not point to calm
in the mortgage markets anytime soon.

The low prices offered for subprime-related
securities in secondary markets support the
impression that the potential for recovery
through foreclosure is limited.  The magnitude
of, and uncertainty about, expected losses in a
foreclosure suggest considerable scope for
negotiating a mutually beneficial outcome if the
borrower wants to stay in the home.

Can any of this actually work?  He used the phrase
“less likely.”  I agree entirely.

Unfortunately, even though workouts may often be
the best economic alternative, mortgage
securitization and the constraints faced by
servicers may make such workouts less likely.

So, how bad is it?  Very bad and getting worse.  The
default rate is rising.

Despite this progress, delinquency and default
rates have risen quickly, and servicers report
that they are struggling to keep up with the
increased volumes.  Of course, not all delinquent
subprime loans can be successfully worked out;
for example, borrowers who purchased homes as
speculative investments may not be interested in
retaining the home, and some borrowers may not be
able to sustain even a reduced stream of
payments.  Nevertheless, scope remains to prevent
unnecessary foreclosures.

Scope remains.  I see.  Scope.  When I hear “scope,” I
think of a mouthwash that covers bad breath.

He made it plain: borrowers will be allowed to escape
their debts.  Once again, the asymmetry of the mortgage
market becomes visible.  Borrowers win.  Lenders lose.

Lenders and servicers historically have relied on
repayment plans as their preferred loss-
mitigation technique.  Under these plans,
borrowers typically repay the mortgage arrears
over a few months in addition to making their
regularly scheduled mortgage payments. . . .

Loan modifications, which involve any permanent
change to the terms of the mortgage contract, may
be preferred when the borrower cannot cope with
the higher payments associated with a repayment
plan.

Lenders are balking at writing down principal.
Surprise!  Surprise!  If they write it down, they have to
record this in their books as a loss.  They don’t want to
do this.  They prefer to conceal the loss with negotiated
rates.

Lenders tell us that they are reluctant to write
down principal.  They say that if they were to
write down the principal and house prices were to
fall further, they could feel pressured to write
down principal again.  Moreover, were house
prices instead to rise subsequently, the lender
would not share in the gains.

Then what can be done?  Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac
must come to the rescue.  But with what?  They are under
siege.  Their credit ratings are held up in the same way
Wile E. Coyote was held up when he overshot the ledge of a
cliff.  He has looked down, but he is still hanging in mid-
air.  We await the inevitable fall.

The government-sponsored enterprises (GSEs),
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, likewise could do a
great deal to address the current problems in
housing and the mortgage market.  New
capital-raising by the GSEs, together with
congressional action to strengthen the
supervision of these companies, would allow
Fannie and Freddie to expand significantly the
number of new mortgages that they securitize.
With few alternative mortgage channels available
today, such action would be highly beneficial to
the economy.  I urge the Congress and the GSEs to
take the steps necessary to allow more potential
homebuyers access to mortgage credit at
reasonable terms.

CONCLUSION

The man droned on for another four pages of text.  All
of it boiled down to this: the FED has no solution.  All
that the FED can do is share data.  As a professor,
Bernanke believes in data.  As a the head of the FED, he
has no answers, but he has lots and lots of data to share.

I would like to comment briefly on Federal
Reserve System efforts to reduce preventable
foreclosures and their costs on borrowers and
communities.  The Federal Reserve can help by
leveraging three important strengths:  our
analytical and data resources; our national
presence; and our history of working closely with
lenders, community groups, and other local
stakeholders.  A major thrust of our efforts is
sharing relevant and timely data analysis of
mortgage delinquencies with community groups and
policymakers to efficiently target resources to
areas most in need.

If you think the FED can solve the mortgage crisis,
it’s time to re-think your understanding of the FED.
Bernanke has confirmed Franklin Sanders’ aphorism: “The
Federal Reserve has only two policy tools: inflation and
blarney.”

Bernanke is running low on blarney.

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JustBuyIt You’re right there, mate.

It shows how many people are out there waiting to  to jump in.  It’s like turning a light switch on.

WANKA @ 21:58 pm

Thanks!  I could not stop reading them and it is the same today as it was then, just different Crooks at the Fed.  Glad you enjoyed it also.  :-)

floridagold 19:36 excellent just simply excellent.

my hat is off to you sir for that astounding post. wj

ment17

Re: salvia…the debil made me try it….over-rated…more bang in a half glass of wine.  yawn

To All The “Experienced” PM Stock Investors

There has been ”much-a-do” going on and being said recently …. by posters here, news writers, business articles & etc.  As an novice investor (I have been investing in pm stocks for several years but, I’m still basically an “amateur” when it comes to others here) …. I am becoming total confused as to how the next several months should play out …. and I’m sure I’m not the only one here (hopefully) in this category, who would like to know in simple language  the following opinions of our experts here as to how they think pm stocks are going to react.  Now …. I certainly don’t want to start a major debate amongst posters … so, if one does not feel comfortable with sharing their thoughts that’s understandable and I respect that.   I’m just trying to get some “guidance” so I can plan accordingly …. especially for the long term (2 to 4 years out).   I guess what I’m looking for is ”how” and not ”specific timing” the pm cycles should play out.      Example:

1.  The next “big” move (hopefully soon) …. should take us to

     (a) approx. what gold price & HUI value

    (b) will this “move” be over a period of weeks or months?

2.  Once achieved … I believe we then go into a “correction”

     (a) will this correction be short lived or can we expect a long one like we have just experienced …. think pm stocks here. 

    (b) will this be wave 4 of whatever that posters speak of  (the down turn) before the final wave 5 “blow-off”. 

3.  Is it considered a good move for one to sell their pm shares before the wave 4 ”correction” and then re-enter at a lower price to catch the big blow-off.    How far out (in years) does one anticipate the final blow-off ??

4.  Will there be several “up & down” cycles between each wave ??

Novice mind(s) would like to know and would appreciate any in-put.  Just trying to get a better handle on what one should expect between now, the next couple of quarters, and especially by year end.  After that, future planning will have to come into play based on how good or bad the next 3 quarters are.    TIA.   (strikerrod)