Ike

I don’t think there is any trogan involved.  If someone ever gets error messages that indicates our site has anything malicious we would want to know about that of course.  I would say our site is at risk just as any site on the internet.  We do everything we can to keep the software current and as secure as possible.  A lot of sites are hacked and the owner never even realizes it — it becomes a zombie server.

ditto soee

Same here, re-sign in, Firefox saves login, no problem …………..(thus far).

Yes, should anyone get a trojan message(s) warning, who do we advise and how?
ie: how do we determine the warning source and pass it on without spreading something?

Your input does help explain some of the ’strange’ recent occurances eminating from and within the Tent. Site being unavailable, Slow, timeouts, etc.

Mayhaps youse guys could put on souper dooper cracker hacker hats, ‘reverse’ engineer, find the Hacker(s) and take down their Server.

Ya’ know, what’s good for the goose, gets his Gander……………

GoldenMaples @ 14:17 pm

Possible.  I was thinking either that or organized crime cartels.  Scripts are written to comb the web for site vulnerabilities - that they hope to turn into crimes of opportunity.   It’s a constant cat and mouse thing.

from Russia or China with love..that’s for sure.  It’s a brave new world.

soee @ 11:13 am

Hackers are employed by the PTB this site must annoy them to no end.

I would think further attempts to knock us us out will be in the works.

WE must be on guard from the rouge code writers.

thf

Yes you can bring all the[commemorative] bronze buffalo’s and tin maples you can carry…grin grin…yes you can but keep it to a low roar…there are numerous other ways so don’t worry…except for the day when the heat comes down heavy and then you or anyone else is SOL. Now let us take a poll on what week and what year that may be….hmmmmm makes ya think huh.
Gatta go and take Mo’s wife to airport…be good.

JBI

Ther is a georgous lady down here that says she is in love with your posts and wants to meet you so she can show her appreciation in person. ……….I.told her you were studying to be a monk…well it didn’t work…don’t worry I gave her Dusty’s phone number..

Belize

Has anyone tried to take metals out of the US and into Belize?

soee

Thank you for working out the difficulties of our site[and eeos]. We always have had a very capable AuDept ready and willing in the background.
This is the strength of our Tent.
I am down here doing as best as I can….you too..Fully does his tireless contribution..Wanka too…all the regular and semi regular posters take the time and energy to add to the effectiveness of the site.
The Tent has evolved into much more than even a dreamer could have hoped. Thanks guys

To all;

All this points to a couple of things…the spot named Belize may not be the perfect location but it is good enough to get started….we need to get intrenched even furthur with the power structure down here…we need to lay the groundwork to be self sufficient in food and energy…and we need our assets unteathered to the vagaries and thieving ways of our own respective governments. Where we grew up and lived and married .. well….it has changed..and now is changing drastically before our eyes for the worst. Doing what we can to protect ourselves is now taking center stage. The furthur I get into the midst of this, the more complex it becomes to manage. There are many parameters to look at just for the safeguarding of the Belizian situation….it is not that we as a group don’t have the abilities to accomplish any tasks before us ..but overall organization is needed for effectiveness.
I belive I have picked up on some interesting hidden facts that lead me to think that somehow we have fallen across a safehaven that has a lot of promise.
For those that are going to fight it out on the homefront…you too have the mental tools to rise up above the fray. It is not going to be easy wherever a Tenter [or group of Tenters] makes thier stands..but I would put money on anyone from our group over anybody else I know.
My mind is wandering and I am slightly weary but IMHO are whole group is trying their hearts out to basically “hold the line” across a very broad front of issues. Face it..there isn’t a better outfit out there…..love ya all

Just_Buy_It @ 9:41 am

Yet, SWC was down over $1 on Friday with Plat up $69.00 - go figure!

Mr. soee @ 11:13 @ ( ALL )

All, If your surfing on the web,,
annonymisers,, are a must.
Also your ISP will have for about $5.00
amonth a Firewall, Antispyware and
Antivirus Protection.. The Best.
Why leave yourself open to
destruction,, when unnesessary ??

abtd

Dust,, in the Wind for,, FGC
( failed spelling,, forever )
LOL
ps: is that you adding the smileys ??

Hmmm the tent hacked and JS mineset

is having “technical difficulties”.  Any chance they were hacked as well?

Mr. silverffox52 - 22:28 Fri

Thanks for Eye Opener

hahahahah to Funny
and only Tip of Iceburg ..

Snipit ..

“The FDIC is planning to beef up its staff,
including temporarily hiring up to 25 retired FDIC
employees who worked in the agency’s more than
200-person division that handles failed banks.
They will handle
an anticipated increase in bank failures.”
Ohhh No..
We here talking about this for
what?? Two Years ..

Breaks my heart.. for the uneducated masses.

abtd ,, Bank Balance,, $2.00
could care less what those Fools do.
abtd,, $$,, ” Untouchable ”
Also have , 45.

Protect Yourselves,, ” NO ONE ” else will.

Anotheone_bites_the_dust

www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMxRjioUh2s&feature=related

Happy,, Happy,, Day :)

“The Ticking Credit Card Time Bomb”

“For those holding out hope that the American economy can miraculously avoid a long and deep recession consumer credit is often viewed as the wonder drug that can cure all manner of economic ills. As such, this week’s report showing $15 billion growth in consumer credit was widely heralded as proof of America’s economic strength and resilience. However, we are now suffering the after effects of too much debt, and our salvation cannot be found in more of the same.

Credit card debt, which now stands at whopping $957 billion nationally (approximately $3,000 for every citizen) has, in recent years taken on a different role in American life. While in the past cards were used primarily to purchase big ticket items, spreading out costs over many months, they are now increasingly used to bridge the gap between cost of living and the diminishing purchasing power of Americans who have been taxed mercilessly by inflation. By buying with available credit instead of unavailable cash, consumers are not simply postponing the pain of higher prices, but compounding it by adding interest to the cost of everyday purchases. In addition, as home equity credit is now unavailable to fund large purchases, many consumers are turning to non-deductible, higher cost credit card debt as the last remaining life line. As such, credit card debt compounds steadily, and for many borrowers, becomes increasingly impossible to pay down.

The statistics tell the tale. According to Equifax, a credit card analysis firm, people have been buying more with their credit cards but paying down less. As a result average balances jumped nearly 9% in 2007 and delinquency rates recently hit a 4-year high of 4.5%.

Also, the reliance on credit cards is preventing some of the markets salutary forces from working. With credit always an option, domestic demand remains strong despite rising prices. Absent the option of putting more costly gasoline on their credit cards, Americans might have actually been forced to cut back on their consumption, taking some of the upward pressure off gas prices.

It should be painfully obvious that expanded consumer credit is not evidence of improvement, but simply, deterioration. Unfortunately, when it comes to understanding the economy, there is little common sense on display. By going even deeper into debt just to make ends meet, American consumers are digging themselves, and our entire economy, into an even greater economic hole and laying the foundation for the next major credit debacle. It’s fitting that just as both Treasury Secretary Paulson and JP Morgan CEO Jamie Dimon declared that the worst of the crisis has past, we are on the verge of kicking the whole thing into a much higher gear!

My guess is that many Americas continue to run up massive credit card debt because they have little intention of every paying it off. Since many who are underwater on the home loans, and behind on the auto and student loans see bankruptcy as a foregone conclusion, they see no downside to pilling on as much debt as possible while the taps remain open.

Those choking on credit card debt may also be taking cheer from the gathering government campaign to bail out over-leveraged homeowners. The sheer numbers of who are afflicted with spiraling monthly payments will make credit card relief a potent political issue for crusading Congressman and Presidential candidates. After all, there are few fundamental differences between those who borrowed too much to buy houses and those who made the same mistake with consumer goods. If the government bails out the former why not the latter? In fact, one reason some homeowners have such large mortgages is that they consolidated their credit card debts into their mortgages each time they refinanced. Why should renters be forced to pay off their credit card debts while homeowners have theirs forgiven?

Soon, as credit card delinquencies rise and losses on pools of securitized credit card debt mount, those supplying the credit will finally get wise to the fact they will never get their money back. As a result the market for such debt will dry up even more quickly than did the market for subprime mortgages. Cards will therefore be much harder to come by and will have much lower limits then they do today. Limited to only the cash in their wallets, Americans will finally be forced to dramatically curtail their spending, and the recession will finally gather serious momentum.”

by Peter Schiff
Euro Pacific Capital
May 9, 2008

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JBI

Hezbollah overruns west Beirut as Lebanon on brink

Hezbollah gunmen seized control of west Beirut on Friday after a third day of battles with pro-government foes in the Lebanese capital pushed the nation dangerously close to all-out civil war.

The sectarian fighting had eased by early afternoon as the army and police moved across areas now in the hands of Shiite opposition forces who routed Sunni militants loyal to the Western-backed government.

“There are no clashes anymore because no one is standing in the way of the opposition forces,” a security official said on condition of anonymity.

The rattle of gunfire and the thump of exploding rocket-propelled grenades rang out across mainly Muslim west Beirut during much of the morning as Sunni government loyalists fought street battles with Shiite gunmen.

At least 11 people have been killed and dozens wounded in the fighting that erupted on Thursday after Hezbollah chief Hassan Nasrallah said a government crackdown on his Iranian- and Syrian-backed group was a declaration of war.

The unrest triggered urgent international appeals for calm amid fears that the protracted political feud could plunge the divided multi-confessional nation back to the dark days of the 1975-1990 civil war.

Beirut residents were fleeing for shelter elsewhere as tanks rolled through the streets and hundreds of riot police and troops patrolled the city, but did not get involved in the fighting.

Lebanon was largely cut off from the outside world, with the international airport and Beirut port shut and some roads to neighbouring Syria blockaded by burning tyres.

Arab nations led by regional powerhouse Saudi Arabia are pushing for a special session of foreign ministers to tackle the crisis and some Middle East states have begun trying to evacuating residents.

President Shimon Peres of Israel — whose country fought a devastating war against Hezbollah in 2006 — claimed the violence was fomented by Iran to further what he said was Tehran’s goal to control all of the Middle East.

In Damascus, Syrian President Bashar al-Assad — whose country is Iran’s closest regional ally — said the unrest was a purely “internal affair.”

Witnesses reported fierce gunbattles in several parts of west Beirut as the Sunni neighourhoods considered bastions of Lebanon’s ruling bloc fell to militants from Hezbollah and its ally Amal.

“Everyone is running away,” said 35-year-old businessman Imad as people rushed to stores that remained open to stock up, while others remained trapped in their homes by the fighting.

“It was a hellish night. The armed militants were everywhere shooting all over the place,” said Rima, another west Beirut resident.

Hezbollah, the most powerful armed movement in Lebanon, has also forced the shutdown of all media belonging to the family of parliamentary majority leader Saad Hariri, while a rocket hit the outer perimeter of his Beirut residence.

Hariri, whose father Rafiq Hariri was assassinated in 2005, had made a television appeal to try to calm the situation but this was rejected by Hezbollah.

Gunmen firing rocket-propelled grenades surrounded the headquarters of the Hariri’s Future Television and his movement’s Al-Mustaqbal newspaper early Friday, forcing all its media outlets to close.

“The army is in control of institutions placed under its authority, such as the media outlets of the Future Movement,” the army said.

“It also controls the area around the government headquarters, the central bank, major roads and the area where Hariri and Jumblatt’s residences are located in west Beirut,” referring to prominent Druze leader Walid Jumblatt.

Air traffic was paralysed for the third straight day with no flights scheduled to land or take off from Beirut international airport, an airport official said, after Hezbollah supporters blocked access with mounds of earth and burning tyres.

Nasrallah delivered his defiant speech on Thursday after the government launched a probe into a private communications network run by Hezbollah, which is seen in the West as a terrorist outfit and which critics say has become a “state within a state.”

“The decisions are tantamount to a declaration of war and the start of a war… on behalf of the United States and Israel,” Nasrallah charged. “The hand that touches the weapons of the resistance will be cut off.”

The United States delivered a blunt warning to Hezbollah to stop its “disruptive activities” while UN Security Council members said they were “deeply concerned” over the crisis, a view reflected by other Arab and European leaders.

The crisis will be the focus of talks between President George W. Bush and Lebanese Prime Minister Fuad Siniora in Egypt next week during the US leader’s tour of the Middle East.

Regional powerhouse Saudi Arabia, which backs the Siniora government, called for an urgent meeting of Arab foreign ministers, while Yemen suggested army chief Michel Sleiman be mandated to chair a dialogue to resolve the crisis.

The long-running political standoff, which first erupted in November 2006 when six pro-Syrian ministers quit the cabinet, has left the country without a president since November, when pro-Syrian Emile Lahoud stepped down.

While the rival factions have agreed on Sleiman as a consensus candidate, they disagree on the make-up of the new cabinet and so far 18 sessions of parliament to choose a president have been cancelled.

May 9 06:55 AM US/Eastern

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JBI

soee

I had to sign in late last nite to view the board but no problems beyond that. Username and password is saved to Firefox so it wasn’t more than a minor inconvenience.