Looks Like There’s a Silver Shortage

……from seekingalpha.com/

Worried by the steep correction in silver? Don’t worry, just reduce your leverage.

Silver has always corrected by roughly a third after its sharp ascents in the past 5 years. This is due to the extreme tightness of this market where a billion of whatever fiat currency still can do a lot of damage. At one point the short sellers will be run over by the very real freight train of exploding physical demand that has led to what looks like a worldwide shortage in bullion.

Silver always corrected by a third in the runups of the past 5 years. I would not rule out a similar development this time before silver will attack the $30 mark on its way to the old high at $50.

The US Mint has been out of the gold sale business for almost half a year now, filling orders on very few days since September. Currently only the new 2008 gold proof Eagles are on offer. All uncirculated bullion coins are not available. Platinum coins have not been available in a while too.

Now the physical delivery problems spread to silver as well. The US Mint says it will ship silver eagles again after April 9. But taking it from past experience, this schedule may be delayed again.

Jason Hommel, probably the most outspoken silver bull for a lot of reasons -but not all - I agree with, has compiled a story of real life experiences when trying to buy silver bullion.

From his report:

Three more major silver dealers are reported to be out of silver today: The U.S. Mint, Kitco, and Monex. This, on top of the major dealers yesterday, Amark, Perth Mint, CNI Numismatics, and APMEX, all reported sold out. Further, nearly all of Canada is reported to be out of silver, from Vancouver to Toronto.
Hommel concludes that the latest correction is a matter of price fixing.

This is unprecedented, and is a perfect case of market manipulation in the paper market at COMEX and other futures exchanges to see silver prices continue to drop down to below $17/oz. today. Paper promises can be created endlessly, but real silver cannot.

This is NOT a case of the dealers getting spooked, and selling out to the refiners just in time, at peak prices. This is a case of the public buying up the stock at coin shops across the world ever since gold hit $1000/oz.. That event finally sparked a little of the public’s buying of silver and gold. Thus, the typical coin shop flow of silver to the refiners just stopped in the last few weeks, and especially the last two days.

This is NOT a case of the public creating a top with ‘everyone’ in silver, because nobody’s in silver yet. In 2006, only $1 billion was spent on investment silver, which is 0.007% of the $13.5 trillion of money in the banks. As I have long reported, the silver market is so small, there is no room for new investor demand, not even 0.1% of money could be spent on silver, because that would be $13 billion, which would push silver prices to $200/oz., and we are seeing only the tiniest beginnings of that.

$13 billion would be almost enough to buy all the silver produced by the mines in one year, which would leave nothing for industry. It would essentially double demand, but supply would remain the same.

Furthermore, this is not a top because the public continues to get to the coin shops, and is now getting on waiting lists for silver. The public is not yet in, so how can the price drop?

This is a case of price fixing and manipulation, like communism. Sausage is reported to cost 1 ruble per link (editor: corrected), but there is no sausage. Silver price is quoted, but there is little to no silver.

Shortages are evidence of price fixing. Price fixing results in shortages. They are price fixing silver at a below market price over on the paper exchanges in New York and around the world.

Also check out the highly interesting comments on his story.

This blog reported last September that silver and gold bullion trade 10% to 15% higher in China.

To add my 2 cents on silver shortages I can fill in a little from the German speaking parts of Europe. ebay has offered the most liquid market for silver here, whose investment appeal is greatly diminished by 19% (Germany) and 20% (Austria) VAT and high mark ups of 16% for kilo bars from professional dealers.

1 kilo, worth €€354 at a “global” spot price of $17, would sell for €€481 including all punitive taxes, not considering shipping.

Nevertheless the 3 highest bids on ebay are €€516, €€491 and €€490 for a 1 kilo bar at the time of writing.

I also note that all multi-kilo offers from professional sellers have entirely disappeared for several weeks/months and that there are many new offering hands in this market which I consider the true silver market as these are actual exchanges of fiat money against bullion.

At the same time the new 1 oz silver Philharmonic has seen huge demand in Austria, despite even higher markups.

I also remember very well that prices on ebay stayed up when silver traded to $15 in early 2006 and then crashed to $10 in a similarly brutal move as we have experienced it this week. This correction was not entirely reflected in ebay prices then.

And here some more facts about delays in silver shipments:

Kitco states on its website,

IMPORTANT: Due to the volatility of the market, we are experiencing a significant increase in the volume of shipments going out. Although Kitco and our depositories are working hard to stay on top of this, you may experience a delay in your order being processed by our vault, and sent out to you. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause, and appreciate your patience and understanding.
If you are impatient for more silver bullion, Apmex cannot help you either, reports Boom2Bust.com:

Due to the OVERWHELMING demand for precious metals, our online ordering system has been unable to keep up with our customers’ needs. We have had to disable the APMEX ordering system to allow us ample time to upgrade our site to accommodate the increased demand. We apologize for this temporary problem. In the mean time, we will be accepting telephone orders for the following items only as we have them available:
• 1 ounce Gold American Eagles
• 1 ounce Gold Canadian Maple Leafs
• 1 Ounce Gold Krugerrands
• 100 oz Silver Bars
• Misc Generic .999 Fine Silver
• 90% Coin Silver
During this time, we will have a minimum order of $5,000. We regret we have had to make this drastic change to our ordering process and rest assured, we are working expeditiously to correct the problem.

I conclude to buy more silver. Having to overcome a premium of 36% in Austria, I am anyway in for the very long term. The inflation-adjusted record high for silver now stands at more than $135 per ounce. Meet you there.

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JBI

This from Sinclair is apropo for our present poll

….looks like Congress thinks its the hedge funds…causing Oil to Go Ballistic..

….Many Goldtenters think Congress is the problem…

….but wait…. 3 think its Sinclair’s fault….

….the blame games begin…..

Dear CIGAs,

The Dumb Award for the year goes to our revered legislators who have passed a bill allowing civil litigation against the Saudis over oil prices. If you want to see crude at $200 tomorrow, all you have to do is anger the source of energy.

Now comes the Dumber Award, which is coveted due to the difficulty in getting it.

The markets for crude, currency and gold are GLOBAL.

Gold was sold due to fear this might apply to the yellow metal as well.

It would be bullish to shut down the US market for gold because then you would have a thin market with a positive Euro bent on gold and a more positive global market would be created.

No access for major traders will be denied, that you can be sure of. I would love to see US trading stopped in paper gold. That would be good for $150 on the upside after less than 24 hours.

The poor COT would not be able to create the influence on the global market they do with the aid of the US paper market cabal.

Europe and Asia are more respectful of the price of cash trading in gold. They prefer less regulation with greater privacy

Selling gold on the comment below regarding Oil is a criterion that will short list you for the Dumber Award of 2008.

Gold is headed for at least $1650 by January 14th, 2011. This price objective will likely be reached sooner. I expect the price of Gold to reach $1200 in 2008.

Things are infinitely worse than the media and statistics present.

Consequences cannot be avoided.

The US dollar on the USDX will trade at .62 and then .52.

U.S. Congress could ban speculators from commodities
Bloomberg News
Published: May 21, 2008

WASHINGTON: The chairman of a Senate oversight committee has said he is considering legislation to place limits on large institutional investors in commodities markets, which have posted record prices this year in agricultural products and oil.

The legislation would be aimed at speculators and other investors who use commodities as a way to hedge against swings in other investment instruments like stocks and the dollar, said Joseph Lieberman, chairman of the Senate Homeland Security and Government Affairs Committee, at a hearing Tuesday.

Crude oil reached $132.25 a barrel Wednesday, the highest price ever, and it has almost doubled in the past 12 months. Wheat, corn, soybeans and rice have all set record highs this year on the Chicago Board of Trade, spurring food inflation. The Reuters/Jefferies CRB index of 19 commodities surged 31 percent in the year that ended April 30.

“We may need to limit the opportunity people have to maximize their profits because a lot of the rest of us are paying through the nose, including some who can’t afford it,” said Lieberman, Independent of Connecticut.

The plunging value of the dollar, the U.S. housing crisis and widespread problems in the banking sector have led investors away from traditional instruments and toward commodities, witnesses said.

More?

G O L D

“Follow-Through” after last week’s hammer bodes well, right WANKA? Welcome back, buddy.

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And GOLD’s 300 DMA keeps on rising to All Time High after All Time High … day after day after day. Now at $783.38 - JBI continues to hold with a smile.

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Richard640 @ 12:41 pm

hi Richard, Maya is right about a resolution problem.  Post to us what your resolution is.  I will bet that it is 800 x 600 or less.  Right click on the desktop wallpaper and choose Properties / then Settings tab.  Increase your resolution one notch and see if it goes away.  On Floridagold’s post, I too get the huge gap due to his long URL at the end — but only if I decrease my monitor resolution or if I decrease the IE window size to half or less of my monitor screeen on my normal resolution.  If anyone else notices the same issue, please let us know what your resolution is set at and the size of your monitor from corner to corner.

I believe the underlying problem is actually in the programming for the theme you are using to view this page.  I believe, but am not certain, that the issue only shows up on the GoldEasy and Turtle themes.  You could also switch to another theme such as GT_Standard and GT_Large and it should not be an issue.

Speaking of “gaps between the ears”……….

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Richard640 @ 14:28 ….

Yes ….. the large gap shows on my monitor but, as more postings are added, the gap will disappear.   This is why most posters will use the “tinyURL” feature when posting links. 

Yes GoldenMaples, ROY is ITC in Canada.

Glad to hear you have some shares and that you are happy with it. I haven’t heard it discussed at all and it suddenly came onto my radar last week, when I hopped on board, perhaps foolishly, but maybe not. I like the royalty model too.

Richard640 @ 14:28 pm

I’ve been told that I have a big gap between the ears - BUT - there is no gap on my screen with my posts today.

I do see them occassionally - usually when the post is wide and outside the box to post in to - but if I enlarge my browser screen to full size they go away.  Have a good weekend!

The Future ??

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” Some are doing it quietly, giving few details
of their preparations — afraid that revealing
such information as the location of their
supplies will endanger
themselves and their loved ones.
They envision a future in which the
nation’s cities will be filled with hungry,
desperate refugees
forced to go looking
for food, shelter and water. ”

abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=4924569

Be Prepared,, I guess ,,

and Stop talking about
your Precious ..
We be next …………
Stay Safe and Secure ..

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R640

No, I see no gaps.  I use Firefox browser, and I’m on a Mac.

The display glitch is an artifact of how this Wordpress forum is constructed in html.  Many other forums are purely text based.  This one seems to use box frames and more graphics oriented.  Anyway… the gaps are not ‘real’… they are an artifact of how your windows settings and browser respond to the html instructions coming from the wordpress forum here.

Maya–on florida gold’s post below-i see a huge gap-do you or anyone else?


Maya–thanks for the tip–but it never happens on other forums


Richard640 Display Gaps

The display formatting and ‘gaps’ that you see sometimes when posting a large URL  or image are an artifact of your own monitor display resolution settings in Windows… we have discovered.   Some of us do not see them, and they are not ‘real’… not hard layouts of the forum.

We found that certain browsers (IE) frequently have trouble with the layout of the forum on a screen display, and that the gaps are affected by the display resolution settings in the windows conrol panel.  Some people use lower resolution display settings that makes typeface appear larger and easier to read, but the page runs off the edge of the screen and you must scroll sideways to read the whole page width.   This is the setting that will cause a ‘wraparound’ of space, causing these huge gaps when they overrun the forum display box frame.

You can eliminate seeing these gaps by setting your display screen resolution higher in the control panel of Windows, so the screen display type is smaller, but the whole page width is displayed.   Then the browser will format the screen correctly without the ‘gaps’.

A lot of us like the mozilla Firefox browser as it works better than IE, also.

onthebeach @ 11:29 am

If you mean  International Royalty yes I hold some in my portfolio.

Looks good to go , Ilike it royalty interests grow as well will dividends.

I’m happy with it.

Fullgoldcrown-tHANKS-WHEN i 1ST POSTED IT-IT CREATED A HUGE GAP