from the pages of GATA……Verrrrry interesting….

China drafts new international currency system, Mundell says
Submitted by cpowell on Wed, 2008-06-04 19:49. Section: Daily Dispatches
Dollar Crisis Looms as China Ponders Reforms, Mundell Says

By Jason Webb
Reuters
Wednesday, June 4, 2008

www.reuters.com/article/reutersEdge/idUSL0221460620080603

VALENCIA, Spain — A major dollar crisis could come within five years and China is discussing reforms to the global monetary system to protect its $1.6 trillion reserves pile, says Nobel Prize-winning economist Robert Mundell.

Mundell, who has regular contacts with Beijing officials, said they are considering proposing ways to to fix major currencies, including the dollar and the euro, in a system similar to the one that operated under the Bretton Woods agreement from the end of World War II until the 1970s.

“Inside the Chinese government there’s a lot of discussion going on. I’m not sure how they’re doing it but I know they’re going to get an input from me,” Mundell told Reuters in an interview.

Without reform, the global monetary system is headed for a dollar crisis within years, Mundell believes.

However, he thinks the United States will avoid a technical recession during the current downturn and that the weak dollar will help it to make a recovery around autumn of this year.

But its growing liabilities accumulated by its current account deficit means that it will eventually pay a high price if the current monetary set-up continues, he said.

“I see the problem coming maybe in the next recession,” he said. “There could be a real dollar crisis in five years.”

… Chinese concerns

China is worried about its pile of about $1.6 trillion in foreign reserves, built up during years of U.S. trade deficits, which loses value as the greenback depreciates.

“What you need to have is an International Monetary Fund that’s going to take some of these excess dollars, put them into a substitution account inside the IMF or some other institution, and then use that and create a new international currency,” said Mundell.

“This kind of proposal would be very acceptable inside China. The Chinese are thinking in terms of this,” he said.

Mundell, awarded the Nobel Prize for Economics in 1999 for his work on exchange rates and optimum currency areas, travels regularly to China, where he has advised senior government officials.

For years China has come under pressure from U.S. and European authorities to allow its currency, the yuan, to appreciate, in order to make Western goods more competitive. But Beijing has resisted.

“They don’t have many pre-conceptions. They don’t have a belief, obviously, that floating is a good idea, whereas the European Central Bank and the Americans think that floating is the best of all possible worlds,” Mundell said.

Fixing exchange rates would favor the euro zone, which is now battling with a euro at around record highs against the dollar, said Mundell, who has often been referred to as one of the intellectual fathers of the single European currency.

“I think the risk now is that the high euro is going to build in pressure which is going to involve deflationary pressure in the asset markets, housing, and so on, and that’s going to cause a problem, a nagging problem, that’s going to go on for a long time as long as the euro is as high as this,” he said.

“The swings in the dollar-euro exchange rate are big problems, and the problem is exacerbated by the fact that the Americans get the benefit of these swings and Europe gets the wrong end of the stick.”

But Western policy makers, particularly in the United States which receives an economic stimulus from a weak dollar, would be reluctant to accept monetary change, Mundell said.

“The Bush administration isn’t much interested in it. They’re quite happy with the dollar the way it’s working, and the Europeans are really behind the zone on this. Nobody in Europe is thinking about international monetary reform and Europe would be a major beneficiary of it.”

“Bernanke and Trichet are very much behind the curve on this,” he said, referring to Federal Reserve chief Ben Bernanke and ECB head Jean-Claude Trichet.

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@R640

Or shouldn’t we add another lil ole zero by now?

Well, I’m responding to your Engdahl financial tsunami, an essay i can again fully agree upon - even if it  only just touches the tip of the real iceberg, which is most all of the derivative pyramid still threatening to topple together with the overleveraged financial system and their totally useless, overblown, overhedged and and on the verge of criminal hedge fund “industry”!

I’ve almost given up on William Engdahl after his latest few essays on totally reneging peak oil, and any other resource as well as denying any climate change (well, that’s still OK) - though his new found belief in abiotic oil came as somewhat of a shocker to me. As I’ve mentioned here, I’ve introduced the guy to Bill Murphy some 2 years ago in Munich and had a few discussions with him last year about similar topics and was somewhat taken aback by his negative responses to ideas like Hubbert, Simmons, Heinberg and many others … well maybe a-biotic causes i-diotic. frr 

oil rpw

the sell signal for oil got stopped out today if a conservative stop was used. the second attempt is a close below the low of the high day. the rpw rules state that if you get stopped out the second time, leave it alone.

rno

Markets make my head spin..from Deepcaster: good summation

www.financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/deepcaster/2008/0606.html

Have not sold anything past few weeks and only hope I will not regret it on Monday. It could get even uglier, but what the H…. do I know!

And how about this from Mish-How safe is a safe deposit box? Not very.
globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/

Central Fund of Canada

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The new total of issued and outstanding Class A Shares of Central Fund is 129,452,713. The investment holdings of Central Fund are now represented by approximately 830,585 fine ounces of gold, 41,523,556 ounces of silver and
U.S.$29,017,158 in cash.

tinyurl.com/4g7s85

tinyurl.com/2vffgp

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ps,, bought 900 sh’s at the close

Richard640 @ 16:54 pm

COTR-Bullish.  Yes I think so.  Since the Commercials are just about always short, when they go less so by a good percentage like today then it means something…eventually perhaps they’ll be net long, like for instance now in copper.

I don’t put as much importance on the big specs and non-reportable (who I have just learned are the small specs :-) )  although of course they are the other side of the trade.  I do notice when their longs are decreasing it is supposedly bullish and when they are massively long they have a reputation of getting stampeded out by the commercials.

PS.  I don’t trade futures so my knowledge of that market is cursory at best.  Was that redundant?  ;-)

Cheers, ipso

winedoc @ 16:15 “came out of nowhere”

Congrats to FGC who said yesterday…….
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Fearless Prediction
-> Posted by Fullgoldcrown @ 14:34 pm on June 5, 2008
….Gold Goes Nucken Futz to the upside tomorrow..

…OI OI OIL up 5.50 !!!!!….Gold down 4.50 ?????

…SOMEBODY TAKE THE SHORT WHO FELL ASLEEP WITH HIS ELBOW ON THE GOLD SELL BUTTON…AND SHOOT HIM !

Irish; I was out when you phoned.

I am in now, and am in all weekend.   As your line has been ‘busy’ when I return your call, please call again when time permits.

Augirl; please pass this message on to Irish if you are speaking to him later.  Thanks, &

Cheers, TQ

Richard640

Great posts
keep-um coming..
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Gartman

Dennis Gartman said on Tuesday:

Commodities will become “much, much weaker” after Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke signaled support for the U.S. dollar, Dennis Gartman, economist and editor of the Gartman Letter, told clients.

“We are facing a tidal wave of selling,” Virginia-based Gartman wrote in his daily newsletter today. Even agriculture prices “may come under pressure following Dr. Bernanke’s dollar support.”

KABOOM!

Dennis Gartman said later on Tuesday:

“The time has come to sell gold short,’ Gartman wrote in his U.S.-based daily Gartman Letter today. “We’ll sell a bit of a gold short upon receipt of this comment.’

A great letter to Murph tonight-as I write I hear the guys on CNBC yelling “it’s a bubble”

Bill H:

To all; this smells like war to me. Oil has rallied $17 in 24 hours to new alltime highs. Diesel is currently locked “up limit”. The equity markets are faltering badly. CNBC as usual has nothing but candy a$$ed explanations of these market movements. Nothing in today’s environment has any logical explanation. I smell war, force majeur in many commodity markets, “banking holidays”, and probably moratoriums on debt payments as the banking system seizes up. AMBAC and MBIA were downgraded yesterday. This has huge ramifications that are no longer even spoken about by the media because doing so will cause a self fulfilling prophesy of panic. Lehman looks to be Bear Stearns reincarnated as they deny, deny, deny.

This has slowly become a quicksand pit of lies and spin. The fiat system is broken and broke. Spin to manage expectations and perceptions will not make an insolvent system magically healthy. Unfortunately, I think we will be at war very shortly with Iran. The frantic movements in the markets are saying “over the weekend”. This will be a last ditch effort to save/prolong the west’s banking system, and to control more oil producing lands. I think the war will be used as THE reason for the financial system seizing up. Lord knows we need a reason since “all is well”. The real reasons for a collapse have been in place for about a year now, but those in charge are furiously trying to deflect and redirect blame. Regards, Bill H.
 

ipso_facto-didn’t that whole gold cot report look bullish to you?

*The large specs reduced longs by 20,410 contracts and increased shorts by 891.*

The commercials increased longs by 317 contracts and reduced shorts by 15,797.*

The small specs reduced longs by 6,221 contracts and decreased shorts by 11,408.
 

The Financial Tsunami has not reached its Climax

Credit Default Swaps: Next Phase of an Unravelling Crisis
by F. William Engdahl-Global Research, June 5, 2008
  
The Sub Prime Meltdown is but the Tip of the Iceberg

While attention has been focussed on the relatively tiny US “sub-prime” home mortgage default crisis as the center of the current financial and credit crisis impacting the Anglo-Saxon banking world, a far larger problem is now coming into focus. Sub-prime or high-risk Collateralized Mortgage Obligations, CMOs as they are called, are only the tip of a colossal iceberg of dodgy credits which are beginning to go sour. The next crisis is already beginning in the $62 TRILLION market for Credit Default Swaps. You never heard of them? It’s time to take a look, then.

The next phase of the unravelling crisis in the US-centered “revolution in finance” is emerging in the market for arcane instruments known as Credit Default Swaps or CDS. Wall Street bankers always have to have a short name for these things.

http://tinyurl.com/4yaank

Lots of Copper

Minera Andes drilling cuts 217 meters (712ft) of 0.77 percent primary copper mineralization at Los Azules project
Friday June 6, 3:28 pm ET

TSX: MAI NASD-OTCBB: MNEAF

SPOKANE, WA, June 6 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ - Minera Andes Inc. (TSX: MAI; US OTC: MNEAF) is pleased to report assay results from the remaining core holes drilled during the 2007-2008 exploration field season at the Los Azules porphyry copper project. The best intercept is from hole AZ-08-37A which encountered 112 meters of 0.98 % copper within a larger zone of 217 meters of 0.77 % copper. This hole represents the largest interval of primary copper mineralization identified on the property to date, it extends the known mineralization an additional 400 m to the north and is the deepest hole drilled to date on the property by Minera Andes further confirming the limits of the copper system have not been defined.

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/080606/to371.html?.v=42

Dark and Stormy

Its my medical students last day.    We finished off with a 2 hr bike ride up sugarloaf mountain and then two “Dark and Stormy’s” by the pool.  Just checking in and I can’t believe how this came out of no where……..Of course it always does!!

Cover of the Rolling Stone

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Ya Baby

Winedoc