Fiat Currencies

All of them inflate…It’s just a relative matter of their implied trust rates.  Textbook deflationary theory was based upon a monetary value backed by hard (Gold/Silver) money. Those days are over. Not one country now  has a gold backed paper. It’s not whether a fiat nation is inflating…thats a given. Rather it’s which nations are inflating more or less to the other.  If your in a country that is exporting then your inflation rate  will be that much better than another country that is importing.

The USA has 25% of the worlds coal reserves. Coal to diesel conversion is less then $50.00 per barrel. Hello!

RedOkie……….I think we have a 7 point RPW in……..

…….the 12 second chart of the US Dollar……….

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PMFEVER catch it if you can

500,000 credit

500,000 debits

where is the extra cash coming from to get a loan

sell some fradulent bonds ,,,

loan the money off the books ‘

what does accounting have to do with it ..

just give me some old fashioned volocity ,, zoom

Ment………Rob Kirby…….I agree………

I made the comment before on “another site” that if one sells something without even needing a loan (to borrow it, first) that the sales of the item is free money that then circulates all over hades.   I think the response was that it is “not really money”, but if it is electronic digits that can be traded for something else……….maybe that is the part of M3 that makes it so high…………the “credits” that have some properties of money. …………LOL, they don’t exist, but are tradable like money.

I almost ran off the road laughing!

I was traveling down the road listening to Marketplace on NPR this afternoon. The commentator was talking about some of the other banks not taking IndyMac’s checks and those that were taking them saying it would take 8 weeks in some cases to clear. The speaker then said that they should have just left the funds with IndyMac since because the FDIC took over that they were as safe as any other bank in the country. LOL

And he’s probably right. And that ain’t too safe.

Sabe, I guess you are right. In the end, monetary inflation might not work…

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-money14-2008jul14,0,3947241.story

rob kirby

Up Next Folks: Naked Bond Shorts

Folks need to understand that naked equity shorts have always involved the trade of shares that do not exist – all under the watchful eye of regulators.

At GATA’s Washington conference back in April, I presented a paper titled, The Elephant In the Room, which

illustrates how U.S. Treasury Bonds that CANNOT EXIST are regularly traded in massive volumes by none other than J.P. Morgan and friends.

Has a familiar ring to it, ehhh?

For those of you not paying attention – the trade of financial instruments that officially ‘do not exist’ amounts

to unreported MONEY PRINTING.

It would now appear that monetary aggregate data supplied to us by the Federal Reserve might be more suspect than the Bureau of Labor Statistics’ inflation data.

Equisetum @ 23:18…..That pretty well summarizes what…

…I intended to convey………

Chuck at Lemet

Juniors - A change in the weather

Chuck Cohen

This message has been percolating for the past week or so. In light of all of the events and headlines of the past month, its conclusions may be difficult for many of us to accept, but I believe that a shift in the markets has most likely occurred, at least for a season.

Most of us who believe that the sky is falling, gold will be preeminent and we can say to everyone, “I told you so,” have been befuddled, frustrated and angry, at the very least. Our premises seem to have to pass. We have witnessed a skyrocketing oil price, vanishing liquidity, collapsing financial shares, a terrible dollar chart and a renewed run up in gold to nearly $1000. But in spite of all of this, the junior gold mining sector not only seems not to care, but is behaving as though the gold move is kaput, with the smaller companies ready to close their doors. I don’t think I am exaggerating this view. The question is why haven’t the gold shares tripled or quadrupled during over the past three years? I believe there are real reasons.

As this recent drama has been unfolding, I have sensed that the above landscape was about to change. Relief was on its way to us, and the launching of the historic move we have anticipated will finally begin. Here is what I think is happening, and why it is ultimately incredible for gold.

Right now by almost any measure, the stock market is enormously oversold. The sentiment indicators have sunk to the lowest levels since 1998, when the stock market began its final maniacal move. More significantly, the volume in the financial shares yesterday was not just historic; it was beyond comprehension. For instance, the total volume on the 19 different financially related companies that we have been charting recently totaled almost 2 BILLION shares. To put this into perspective, the average over the past 30 days prior to yesterday was about 450 million and on May 30th, it totaled just 327 million. Now this could mean one of two things: there is an imminent shutdown of the financial system, or it is a bottom, at least through the rest of the summer.

Or, we might allow for something even more cosmic. This is what I think is most likely coming. The scenario of a perceived free market supply and demand system (only kidding) is morphing into one in which all financial obligations will now be underwritten by the nimble electronic fingers of the United States government, the Federal Reserve and its various henchmen. I don’t pretend to understand how the mechanism would work, but I believe it is doable and probable at this point. Not only will this relieve the liquidity collapse, but it will cause the dollar to break its significant support level gushing out almost unlimited liquidity. But most importantly for us, it will set free our poor orphans from the poorhouse.

I realize that a lot of us might be thinking that if our shares didn’t fly with everything that is happening, why should an improving financial market help us? But we must recognize that the downdraft of liquidity has been our enemy not our friend. If you look back at the bottom of the stock market sell off in early 2003, gold was still around $300, the HUI around 110 and silver around $4. And then came the war spending, tax cuts and the creative housing financing and refinancing. This stimulation will be far different, since the problems are so much more embedded and ultimately unsolvable. It will require extraordinary creative steps although I believe that the governments and authorities are fully up to the task. After all, they were the Thomas Edisons of subprime mortgages and credit derivatives. They are able to create money where none exists. And if there is something we all have learned by now, the monetary authorities and the banks are clueless as to the consequences of their policies but they can do something very well. When all fails they can come up with more gimmicks.

Finally and hopefully to prove my point about the gold shares, I have included this long-term chart of the Nasdaq. I believe the Nasdaq is most representative of the junior sector since it includes many speculative companies. Don’t forget that way back in the early 1990s, many of the smaller technology companies had nothing but promise. And even during the entire spectacular run, few really showed any kind of profits.

If you can follow my logic, please go back to 1988 on the chart. At that time, the stock market was still reeling from the crash of late 1987, and pessimism held sway over the entire investment community and the American public. Yet amazingly, the peak would still be almost 13 years away. In retrospect, it is hard to believe.

It wasn’t until 4 years later that the stock averages finally bettered their 1987 high. In fact, in 1990, the Nasdaq fell almost 20% back down to 400. And then it took off, first slowly and it began to accelerate. Over the next 8 years, it had spiked up over 1200%. And most of the companies that did the best never earned a cent. Can’t you connect this to the junior gold sector?

But there is a vast difference. Many of the exploration companies that have done so poorly hold very prospective properties that contain real money (gold) strewn all over them. I view them as virtual mints, if you believe we are heading to the days of reckoning. We are now nearly 7 years into the greatest bull market in history, and if history can guide us, another 12-15 years remain. If the last great market cycle brought such an extreme move, my strong belief is that this one will bring a much, much greater one.

The world financial complex is heading for the end game, one in which nothing can be done and where chaos is everywhere. Perhaps immediately, the next move will not be the ultimate one, but it will be a critical one for the world, and especially for gold. Hyperinflation, here we come.

One view of the inflation-deflation discussion

Tweedledum and Tweedledee
              Agreed to have a battle;
            For Tweedledum said Tweedledee
              Had spoiled his nice new rattle.

            Just then flew down a monstrous crow,
              As black as a tar-barrel;
            Which frightened both the heroes so,
              They quite forgot their quarrel.’

*from Alice Through the Looking Glass

GTG  Nite all.  :mrgreen:

PMFEVER catch it if you can

It could be like Alice in Wonderland.  Sometimes posts go down the rabbit hole and disappear.  :mrgreen:

PMFever (22:52) I dont get your “back door of Canada” bit.

Canada’s west coast and Canada’s electronic avenues and Canada’s diplomatic avenues of business transactions are quite open, as in “our front door is always open, so welcome Asian investors”.  Cheers.  Equiz.

Ipso………Maybe he accidentally deleted it, then posted, again.


fgc

i went into the wilderness at 0630 this morning and just got back. things seem to be working fine now.

rno

I Sure Hope all is well with Midas

…first time ever (10 years)…the James Joyce Table says…”Midas has been delayed…”