Polly

Thanks but could of used more than few hrs. Im so tired now. Swung but another place to get it smoged while I was at it. I dont know how I got away with it but  wayyy over a yr late, paid but pending smog. Hows that for procrastination. There were a few times I had so make some right turns when I noticed a black and white behind me. But its done now, no problem, only problem I think it due again soon, maybe it will work for both yrs? Its every other yr here. Ill have to ask. They will be keeping my car for about 5 days so I will make a apt. so I can plan it, the rental to drive to the beach or tahoe, haven’t decided yet. Save on wear and tear on mine. Won’t cost them any more anyways. Was that Ferrit inflation/deflation? I saw that post but didn’t understand it or what he was trying to say. But thinking the gas will come down, I think a lot of people thought it will just go down from here. I did see some head and shoulders patterns on oil forming, could be failed patterns to come, but to tired to remember where.The other things will have to look at when Im less tired.

Maya, that store with all the european foods is called Kovals, picked up some homemade sausage and lamb, and some marinated vegetables to try this time. Those tapes  I saw on factory type animal harvesting and its abuses makes me thinking about going vegatarian, except maybe fish or better raised animals. Well at least they had a good life they other wise wouldn’t of had doesn’t apply to these poor creatures, more like a hell hole tourcher chamber and horrifing painful deaths resulting of  mass production of living animals.

all

As per the networks I think it is deplorable dispicable perverted manevolent horrible disgusting that Mike Phelps is making children balloon up 50 60 100lbs. by eating these Kellog Corn Flakes and to have them sugat coated aggggrrr Do worse to him than Jimmy the Greek I think we on the tent should debate this issue for at least 5 days straight it is SOOO important …I just about threw a brick at the T,V a minute ago….I was momentarily transfixed cause my batteries ran low and I had to switch them before I could change the channel. GOD! The public is so screwed…

hey bro

They could have used 40″ of steel reinforced high density concrete and the building would have still collapsed do to ________ (whatever you want to blame it on).  Once you’ve made up your mind that you “know” what happen and “who” did it based upon your extensive review of the ‘evidence’ and your status as a subject matter expert - then the rest is irrelevant is it not?   I’m sure you didn’t even bother to click on the link and at least consider any alternative explanations.  Really it’s not worth debating these types of topics with someone who has firmly convinced themselves of the final outcome and has shut off all possibility of any alternatives.  Remember: Mr. Market loves guys with inflexible attitudes like yours. It’s like taking candy from a babe.

Dusty, FGC and Sinbad

What I was thinking is that what if they spend a $100 grand watching someone, they better make sure they get a conviction for something or some agent’s head is going to be on the block.  So it’s waterboard city until the poor shmo confesses to something, then it’s off to Gitmo or the nearest workcamp.  

soee- here’s another cost effective “fix” they left out of the NIST report

  • Encase all steel structural members and related connections with a minimal depth of 4″ of steel reinforced high density concrete- to avoid use of thermite and other pyrotechnic compositions from causing building collapses. <G>

 Thermite in action

NIST concludes that WTC #7 came down due to explosive charges

Well, not totally accurate, but here’s the complete report released today… for the structural engineers to chew over.

http://www.nist.gov/public_affairs/releases/wtc082108.html

Fullgoldcrown (21:56) I can relate to what you just posted.

We owned some gold stocks when the stock market did its Olympic dive in Ocorber 1987.  So do you have any wonder why I have posted on Goldtent repeatedly my opinion that PM stocks will plunge when the main stock market takes a big plunge?

You and grin have posted various items to suggest that I am wrong in my pessimism on this point.  I have taken note of  the examples that the two of you posted, wherein pm-related equities, that is the HUI, has moved up when the main market moved down.  I accept your examples as examples that prove your point for the times represented in your examples. 

  But I still believe in my point, which is that when there is a big drop in the main equity market that PM-related equities are going to be swept down into the whirlpool like they were in October 1987.  I think the link you posted at 21:56 indicates what I am trying to get at.  And yes I think holding physical silver and gold is a good alternative to holding PM equities if we were to re-experience an event like the one that hit the market in October 1987.

Cheers.  Equiz.

The Daily Reckoning PRESENTS:
we take a brief pause from our usual format. For the next two days we will surrender the floor to our friend and colleague Dan Denning, substituting our usual guest essay for a few more notes and insights. Read on…

*** Helicopter Ben and Bazooka Hank…Fire at will…

*** Buying common for less than intrinsic…and more!

Greetings from the Lucky Country. We are hard at work where the rubber
meets the road in the China-resource boom (the coal/iron
ore/gold/bauxite/vanadium/molybdenum rich Aussie outback).

Along with you, we wish the U.S. crew and Bill best of luck in releasing
I.O.U.S.A. into the wild today. It’s a timely movie on an important
subject. And Addison has much better hair than Al Gore.

In the meantime, the markets are in full swing. And since the sun never
sets on The Daily Reckoning Empire, allow us to take a look at the scene
and tell you what we see: a gunfight.

First, it looks obvious now that Henry Paulson is outgunned. Remember in
July the U.S. Treasury Secretary said that if it was clear to the market
that the Treasury COULD buy convertible preferred shares in the GSEs, it
would probably restore order and prevent any more naked short selling and
the total collapse of the U.S. housing market. Taxpayer money would not
have to recapitalize Fannie and Freddie.

Paulson told Congress that a new regulatory arsenal for Treasury and
`Helicopter Ben’ at the Fed would be enough to turn the psychological tide
(ignoring the fact that it was solvency problem, not simply a poor frame
of financial mind).

“If you have a squirt gun in your pocket,” Paulson told the Hill, “you may
have to take it out. If you have a bazooka in your pocket, and people know
you have a bazooka, you may never have to take it out.”

Freudians discuss.

In the meantime, to paraphrase Jim Malone (Sean Connery’s Irish Cop in The
Untouchables), never bring a squirt gun to a gunfight, Mr. Paulson.

What the market really wants to know is what the Treasury is prepared to do.
And so the market has called Paulson’s bluff. “What are you prepared to
do,” it asks?

*** Shares of Fannie Mae fell 26% yesterday, while cousin Freddie was off
22%. The death/nationalization watch for the GSEs is now on round the
clock. But what does it mean for U.S. investors? And what happens next?

As the Barron’s story pointed out this weekend, both companies are
effectively insolvent. But the charade that everything’s just fine
continues.

One reality check may come soon. Fannie has nearly US$120
billion in debt that matures by the end of September.
Freddie has US$103 billion in debt.

Can the GSEs roll it over?
Who’s going to buy it? The Russians? Central banks? Private equity? Bueller? Anyone?

If the GSEs can’t fund their operations or roll over their debt, what
point is there in having a government sponsored mortgage lender that
cannot provide liquidity in the secondary mortgage market?

We shudder at what this means for the U.S. housing market…but the phrase `lower
prices’ comes to mind.

Facta, non verba. Deeds, not words.

Paulson hoped that by publicizing the fact that the Treasury could buy
equity in the GSEs and recapitalize them, it wouldn’t actually have to do
anything. He wanted all of the benefits without any of the risks and
actions. That pretty much sounds like the ethos of America’s financial
economy in the early 21st century.

Harry Callahan had a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world.
And the punk he was chasing down didn’t know if Dirty Harry had fired five
shots or six. It was a gamble the punk didn’t take because the magnitude
of an imprecise calculation would result in a large hole in his head.

The difference here is the market knows that without direct
nationalization, the GSEs won’t last the month, and perhaps not the week.

Common equity shareholders (those that are left) are headed for the
gallows. This particular verbal weapon: “Hey if we really need to, we’ll
buy $25 billion in preferred convertible” – ended up firing blanks.

*** But what happens if the Treasury steps in now?

We don’t know yet. We don’t know if it will restore any stability to the mortgage market. We’re pretty sure it won’t arrest the fall in U.S. home values. It may even
precipitate a blow out in the spreads on GSE debt versus Treasuries, forcing the Feds to bring GSE-guaranteed debt onto the taxpayer balance sheet.

About the only thing you can be reasonably certain of this week is that
the direct assumption of GSE liabilities should be a negative for the U.S.
dollar. Even if the Feds reorganize the company, liquidate the riskiest
assets, and refloat it as a public company…there’s a lot of uncertainty
for two of the largest financial institutions in the country.

Markets don’t like that.

On the other hand, there is always the remote possibility that the
appearance of a resolution to the decline and fall of the GSEs will give
the stock market a shot in the arm. Irrational rallies are frequent when
you are in a permanent state of crisis, as the financial markets now seem
to be.

But it all seems to be reaching a crescendo this week, doesn’t it? In the
bigger picture, that crescendo sounds like this: debt-financed consumption
is not a long-term strategy for economic success.

A minor, but building theme, might be this: buying common stock for less
than underlying value (intrinsic value, net tangible value, or earnings
power) is a sensible investment strategy.

Translation: keep your eyes on the resource prize. All stocks (commodity
stocks included) are in for some volatility as the financial markets wait
to see which dominoes fall next. But the selling in equity markets simply
makes some resource shares a lot more attractive. This is assuming, as we
do, that the trends of urbanization and industrialization and rising per
capita incomes in the emerging world will not be derailed by the collapse
of America’s Ponzi finance).

*** One interesting question: High in their bazooka-armed helicopter, do
Paulson and Bernanke have quick enough trigger fingers to prevent
deflation in financial assets from precipitating more selling in stocks
and more failed small and regional banks (as the assets on those balances
are market to market and liquidated)?

Our guess, although it is not a happy one, is that they do. The Fed is
becoming a buyer AND a lender of last resort. It will manage the great collateral laundering in the financial markets, exchanging Treasuries for
mortgage-backed securities and other dodgy debt. It can do this by
expanding its balance sheet as much as it needs to in order to accomplish
the task, something it has not yet begun to do

“I have not yet begun to defile myself,” as Doc Holliday says in
Tombstone.

*** Meanwhile, we don’t reckon there’s any real need to worry about
“pushing on a string.” That phrase refers to the inability of Fed policy
makers to get money into the system by lowering rates.

The futility suggested by that metaphor is based on the presumption that a
middle-man, the bank, is necessary to get credit and new cash into the
hands of people who will use and abuse it. If the banks won’t pass the
Fed’s easy credit on to consumers and corporations, then interest rates as
a tool for deflating away debts aren’t effective. So the theory goes.

But the stimulus package from last year showed that the government is more
than willing to bypass the banks entirely if it needs to. Treasury can
simply write checks to Americans, or, through the wonders of the Internet,
make direct deposits into your bank account. That’s how our stimulus check
arrived this year…although that probably means the money can be taken
away just as quickly and easily as it was given, can’t it?

Drug dealers always give away free samples to get users hooked. After
that, it’s easy. Debt is addictive and destructive. That’s what makes the
behavior of our money pushers so revolting and morally reprehensible.
They’re a bunch of pushers in suits.

Mailing checks to Americans is a direct stimulus. But it’s a desperate
measure. When you are that transparent about so-called “wealth creation”
and “economic growth,” the nature of the system is exposed for anyone who
cares to see it. Markets care.

That means it probably can’t go on for long until people begin to lose
confidence (which happens when you lose purchasing power quickly).
Dollar-denominated assets should fall as Bazooka Hank fires away. So
should the dollar. Gold and silver, we reckon, have taken plenty of heavy fire in the last month, but will come out of all this looking like they always do: shiny, durable, and like real money.

But even then, there will be another wave of fiat fraud. Public spending
can be ramped up indirectly with an increase in the kind of massive public
works that FDR pursued in the 1930s. President Obama/McCain better start
working on some new agency acronyms.

National Rail System (NRS)? Check! New Manhattan Project For Oil Shale
(NMPFOS)? Check! A War To Rebuild America’s Infrastructure (WTRAI)? Check!

The checks are in the mail America! Spend all you want. We’ll make more!

Our point?

The GSE nationalization may be a kind of starter’s pistol which causes the
Fed and Treasury to roll out all their inflationary guns…and fire at
will. Stocks appear to be caught in the crossfire. They’re falling as
financial assets deflate. But some stocks have tangible assets. What does
that mean for resource stocks? More on that tomorrow.

Regards,

Dan Denning
The Daily Reckoning

grinn heres a picture of a salmon that I caught a couple weeks ago

FGC - along those lines

  Excellent article

  http://www.safehaven.com/article-11041.htm

Heres a guy with Experience

…..You People out there with Zero Physical….take note

Bill:
In September of 1987, I was flat virtually everything except gold stocks, as my youth and naiveté (incorrectly) ASS-umed that paper gold and silver STOCKS would withstand the oncoming onslaught of (what I thought back then would be) a “tumultuous” September-October “correction”. I owned ZERO physical metals, just gold and silver shares.

When the CRASH of ’87 hit with the element of both unyielding surprise and severity, as a young broker in Canada, I watched with glee as gold spiked from $425 to $503 within literally DAYS of the CRASH, while simultaneously watching with HORROR as my portfolio of (supposedly) well-thought-out “hedges against disaster” (junior gold and silver stocks) got absolutely annihilated. Had I owned the physical gold, I would have been laughing all the way to the bank. I didn’t and my $500,000 holdings were trimmed to less than $12,000 after the margin (Stupid kid!) was eliminated.

Paper is Paper, and not “real money”. When cathartic events occur in the financial arena, only “real money” survives, while everything “printed” on sheets of fancy “newsprint” is marked down to one constant – “newsprint value” – and “newsprint” sells for U.S.$2.86 a pound (I think, but you get my point).

I believe that Mr. Faber and my beloved friend Mr. Russell have had sufficient memory recall to accept this as a possible and very distinct REPEAT of history.

I own a HUGE amount of depressed gold exploration shares recently purchased, but my ultimate protection may very well be the equal dollar amount of physical gold I actually possess and the futures contracts in gold and silver that might – just might – be OK if the Comex actually is able to deliver.

I love this website – the analysis through data interpretation is superb (once I go beyond the drudgery of the “gold bug chantings”). Keep up the great work.
Warmest regards,
Mike

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A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them;
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Proverbs 22:3

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1) Potassium iodide (KI) or potassium iodate (KIO3) thyroid blocker

Nuclear war or reactor accidents will release large amounts of radioactive iodine, which is particularly dangerous because it travels downwind in gaseous form and will be avidly taken up by your thyroid gland. The radioactivity can then wreak havoc upon your thyroid and very possibly cause thyroid cancer. You may have read about this in the newspapers, and the government is finally considering passing out stable potassium iodide pills which will protect your thyroid by blocking the uptake of radioactive iodine. Potassium iodate will work just as well. If you’re preparing for nuclear war, this is where you should start because it is so important.

* Guidance: Potassium Iodide as a Thyroid Blocking Agent in Radiation Emergencies: FDA PDF file
* Consideration of Potassium Iodide in Emergency Plans: Nuclear Regulatory Commission Final Rule in the Federal Register
* Residents near nuclear plants may get cancer prevention pills : CNN.com Health article

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Daily potassium iodide dose (mg) # of 65mg Tablets
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Adults over 18 through 40 yrs 130 mg 2
Pregnant or lactating women 130 mg 2
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* The Medical Effects Of Nuclear Weapons
* Antinuclear Nutrition
* Advice from the Federal Emergency Management Agency

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Moggy

HELP…I’m addicted to Midas…anybody got the antidote ?

Hi Bill,
I was listening to Financial Sense Newshour weekly report and they mentioned a HUGE class action lawsuit is in the works.

It is about 1hr and 4min into the program. www.netcastdaily.com/broadcast/fsn2008-0809-3b.asx

Feel free to listen to it all. They mention GATA and you by name a couple of times.

Here are some quotes:

“In effect, we’re going to have the lawyers on the program in the month of September. It’s going to be the first class-action lawsuit brought against a couple of these bad apple investment banks that we have talked about. I have been told – and I’m not going to mention who – but one of these individuals has got a group of 60 companies that will be joining – I’m trying to put the two together – but I think finally, as one gentleman mentioned to me, he said, “the only people who are going to be making money in Toronto are the gold investors and the trial lawyers because you know what, justice is finally going to be served.”"

Is the individual Jim Sinclair with his “Chamber of Mines”?

“there’s a paper trail that’s permanent; you can’t erase that. And I think finally, like I said, this has been going on for so long that from just talking to several of these law firms they think this is going to be so big that I know here even on the US side, John O’Quinn who’s a multi-billionaire thinks this is bigger than tobacco, bigger than asbestos. And he’s funding this because he thinks this is the biggest legal theft in the history of the country, and likewise what is going on in Canada.”

John O’Quinn
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_O\’Quinn

Rob M
Saskatoon Canada

An FYI for you from Wistar Holt on my largest holding…

Bill,
An interesting development; according to Canadian regulatory services, 5 Insiders at ECU Silver Mining Co. purchased common stock in the open market this past week!
Wistar

Fully

Noooo not off hand…wait a minute ..Son of Benson maybe?
Hey were is that little feller..kinda hope he is alright

all

Well the Belizians are getting with Irish’s Hamburger Island slogan…Minister Erlington in the House said about the Education Budget..”We need to be as transparant as Food Wrap when dealing with monies for Education”…I am going Long on Saran Wrap tonight ..and on Margin!