at the other end of the spectrum from Made-off & the rest of the crooks

A friend sent me this email:

You may or may not have heard about the passing of this great Soldier earlier this year.  His actions were portrayed in the recent Mel Gibson movie, “We Were Soldiers.”  But, even that great movie doesn’t do true justice to the extraordinary bravery exhibited in the 1965 Battle of the Ia Drang between the 1 / 7th Air Cav and a regiment of NVA infantry.

“A Soldier is not dead until he is forgotten.”  Part of our work is to ensure that Americans remember the great Soldiers who made it possible for them, and us, to live our lives as free men and women.  Please take a moment to remember this hero again.

‘Ed Freeman… A True Hero’

You’re an 18 or 19 year old kid.  You’re critically wounded, and dying in the jungle in the Ia Drang Valley, 11-14-1965.  LZ Xray, Vietnam.  Your infantry unit is outnumbered 8 - 1, and the enemy fire is so intense, from 100 or 200 yards away, that your own Infantry Commander has ordered the Medevac helicopters to stop coming in.
You’re lying there, listening to the enemy machine guns, and you know you’re not getting out.  Your family is 1/2 way around the world, 12,000 miles away, and you’ll never see them again.  As the world starts to fade in and out, you know this is the day.

Then, over the machine gun noise, you faintly hear that sound of a helicopter, and you look up to see an un-armed Huey, but it doesn’t seem real, because no Med-evac markings are on it.

Ed Freeman is coming for you.  He’s not Medevac, so it’s not his job, but he’s flying his Huey down into the machine gun fire, after the Medevacs were ordered not to come.

He’s coming anyway.

And he drops it in, and sits there in the machine gun fire, as they load 2 or 3 of you on board.

Then he flies you up and out through the gunfire, to the Doctors and Nurses.

And, he kept coming back…… 13 more times….. and took about 30 of you and your buddies out, who would never have gotten out.

Medal of Honor Recipient Ed Freeman died in 2008 at the age of 80, in Boise, ID ……May God rest his soul…..

(Oh yeah, Paul Newman died that day too.  I guess you knew that – He got a lot more press than Ed Freeman.)

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more info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Freeman

 

Irish - Platinum

Yeah, auto industry lack of demand is part of it.  But Russia is a major producer… maybe the only real place now.  Seems I read recently that the So.Africa mine closed down.  So it wouldn’t surprise me if the money boyz were putting the squeeze on Russia with both low oil and low Platinum prices.

Pt

bought mine at 300 and sold at 900 before y2k,,,,,,,, only got two now -holding for kids…

the reason it is off its high, according to jim rogers is :  auto industry . there is a surplus , it is a comodity,  and auto sales are off big time.   when surplus disappears and auto industry is back to ‘normal’ pt will shine again……………………………..

now if u believe that then i got some amp-e to sell u……..                                            u my buddy, i love u

Irish

I heard on a talk radio on the way home, hat they are making plans to bail out big three autos, funny how they snub them when they wern’t part of the cause of the economy bust just one of it’s effects. They were all too happy to bail out the scammers, but not it’s victims. After all that would make them look guilty. Heard because of it..blame it asll on them..they will need more money to print for other things..went ststic at that point, so guess it’s not near over yet.

florida

Just got done making a bonfire , it’s cold here even in Calif, not like 6 in Wisc. or 8 in Chicago but after 90s F summer quite a drop when gets to 30s.

SSI and the wall street crooks, I agree. You know I also contacted my senator and asked him about SSI and said if you die before you get it why can’t the money go to a designated person after all it is theirs. Of course I didn’t get a reply. They don’t want you to get it.

Fully

Midas info is just more fuel on my fire…I just see all the pieces of info falling in place..even the 50 dollar drop last few days has underlying secret significance..to equal the backwardation up to par..aggggrr never mind ..the money poured into the system lately is staggering..we are getting numb to it…but rest assured..BOOM Up we are going…My only question is “Why is platinum off it’s highs so drastically”?.it kind of bothers me[hell if someone makes me think it is an industrial metal] But it is a bee under my bonnet

goldielocks @ 22:02 pm

Madoff will be tried, convicted and spend the rest of his life in a country club prison  for his Ponzi scheme and rightfully so.   At the same time the US government is running the largest Ponzi scheme in the history of the world and it’s called Social Security!  Nothing will happen to the Senators and Congressmen who allow this to continue knowing that somewhere in the future - the last people in, will get nothing.

While we are throwing people in jail  - lets put the heads of the Fed, Treasury, SEC, Goldman, Lehman, Bear, Morgan, etc. etc. etc. in jail for destroying the economy of the world.  Opps, sorry, guess we can not do that since they are the ones who are now spending OUR money to get us out of the problems they got us into. 

WE THE PEOPLE are dumber than a box of rocks!  Soapbox

I see a Blockbuster Movie Comming

….”Made Off “…The Movie

More family pulled in

December 19, 2008
Unlikely Player Pulled Into Madoff Swirl
By STEPHEN LABATON

Eric Swanson received a startling call last Thursday from his wife, Shana D. Madoff, who said that something was terribly wrong. Officials from the Securities and Exchange Commission and the Justice Department had swooped down on the offices of Madoff Investment Securities, where Ms. Madoff was the compliance lawyer, seizing records and asking pointed questions as they began investigating one of the largest frauds in Wall Street history.

Mr. Swanson, who only a year earlier had married into the Madoff family, had an intimate familiarity with the S.E.C. For 10 years he had been a midlevel official at the commission’s Washington headquarters. He had also occasionally worked on matters involving the Madoff firm in the years before he became romantically involved with Ms. Madoff in 2006, just as he was preparing to leave the S.E.C. Ms. Madoff is the niece of Bernard L. Madoff, the central figure in the scandal, and the daughter of Peter Madoff, who was the firm’s chief compliance officer.

As the investigation unfolds, Mr. Swanson finds himself in the unusual position of having newfound roots in the family at the center of the scandal and older ties to the government regulator that failed to uncover the scheme.

As both come under closer scrutiny for the events that have led up to the loss of billions of dollars, Mr. Swanson has been attacked in blogs and some news accounts that have suggested his relationship with the Madoffs was a central reason that the commission turned a blind eye to the Ponzi scheme.

Earlier this week, Christopher Cox, the S.E.C. chairman, appeared to make a veiled reference to Mr. Swanson when he criticized earlier botched inquiries into the firm by the commission and said that an internal investigation would look at “all staff contact and relationships with the Madoff family and firm, and their impact, if any, on decisions by staff regarding the firm.”

Eric Starkman, a spokesman for Mr. Swanson, said Mr. Swanson would fully cooperate with such a review. But in fact, the work Mr. Swanson did that touched on the Madoff firm was relatively minor, and no evidence has emerged that Mr. Swanson did anything involving the firm after he became close to Ms. Madoff in the spring of 2006, current and former commission officials with knowledge of his work said in recent interviews.

Moreover, in the years leading up to his involvement with Ms. Madoff, Mr. Swanson aggressively pursued an enforcement action against a company whose board included his future father-in-law, Peter Madoff, and whose chief executive was one of Mr. Madoff’s closest friends.

Former colleagues in the regulatory world and professional adversaries described Mr. Swanson as a straight arrow, earnest by-the-book Midwesterner who worked long hours and received excellent job evaluations. Several said they always saw him act aggressively but fairly in his years at the commission and that they never saw any evidence of him favoring any company, including Madoff Securities.

“I remember him as a very hard-working, dedicated and smart guy,” said Joseph Lombard, a former market regulation counsel to Arthur Levitt Jr. when he was the S.E.C. chairman in the 1990s. “You have people at the agency, like anyplace, who are more or less committed to the enterprise. Eric was all in. He believed in the ability of regulation to make markets better. He was an advocate of aggressive action against people who had fallen short.”

Jeffrey D. Spill, a deputy director of the New Hampshire Bureau of Securities involved in a case brought against Ameriprise Financial when Mr. Swanson worked at that firm, described Mr. Swanson as “straight and professional.”

Mr. Swanson, 41, arrived at the commission’s office of compliance inspections and examinations in 1996 after clerking for a federal appeals court judge in South Carolina. A native of Minneapolis, he graduated from the University of Minnesota and the Hamline University School of Law.

The office he joined is in charge of monitoring the stock markets and making sure that companies comply with an arcane set of regulations that are intended to protect investors as they execute trades. In 1999 and 2004, he played a peripheral role in examinations of the Madoff firm, current and former officials said. In the later examination, his work was reassigned to another lawyer who, after a promotion, was looking to expand his workload.

From 2002 to 2005, Mr. Swanson was involved in developing a case against the National Stock Exchange. At the time, Peter Madoff was a director and Madoff Securities was a significant investor in the company. The case, which was settled in 2005, was unusual in that it was one of the few to name a top executive of the company as a defendant. It accused David Colker, the exchange’s founder and chief executive, of violations. Mr. Colker is a close friend of Peter Madoff. The commission penalized the exchange and Mr. Colker for failing to enforce investor protection rules from 1997 to 2003. The commission concluded that the exchange had failed to properly monitor a rule that prohibited dealers from trading for their accounts ahead of customer orders.

Mr. Swanson left the commission in 2006 to become chief counsel and vice president for regulatory strategy at Ameriprise, a financial services company. Early this year, he became general counsel of BATS Trading, a new trading exchange.

Mr. Swanson has told friends that he met Ms. Madoff at a breakfast at the offices of A. G. Edwards in St. Louis in October 2003. At the time, Ms. Madoff was on a compliance committee of an industry group. It held regular meetings around the nation with regulators and industry executives and lawyers to examine market and regulatory trends.

The two maintained what one associate described as a professional relationship, occasionally seeing each other at industry meetings. In April 2006, they became romantically involved while he was visiting New York. On Dec. 8, her birthday, he proposed to her. They were married soon afterward and he had an opportunity to meet many of the members of his new family.

The scandal has taken more than a personal toll on Mr. Swanson and his wife. Ms. Madoff has told friends that she has lost a substantial portion of her assets, which she invested with her uncle.

Florida

I read somewhere where Madoff may have made off with as much as 100 Bil and will have effects many places. I’m guessing he knew the Sec was looking the other way on all these crooks out there so he could just get away with anything he wanted, again exploiting the American people and who knows who else. If he were in some place like China he would be beheaded. I can only wonder what these other country’s think about all these crooks. He’s probably thinking he’ll get a slap on the wrist for deceiving and robbing all these people taken in by all this and make off with a bundle.

Floridagold… 2 good points (sic)… and here’s another Madoff Theory

from Midas

Caught an interesting take on the Made-off scandal on the Net this week. The story of a Ponzi scheme that took in professional investment firms makes a large assumption, that is these professional firms all had a complete break-down in their Due Diligence. When companies lay out large sums they have to “make the case” internally and that is a substantive process.

So let’s assume that the DD process took place, and all looked well to the investing firms, and Madoff had a legitimate and active trading firm. A large number of hedge funds got destroyed from the leverage they employed after they piled into commodities this year. If Madoff made poor bets and the leverage wiped him out, what course of action would get something back for all his investors (friends and family as well no doubt)?

Here’s the supposition:

Wipe out all records pertaining to Madoff’s trading

Concoct a story that the entire enterprise was a Ponzi scheme

Have the sons report his crime to the authorities

This would make the loss of capital a crime, and that would allow the investors to retrieve some money from the fund set up after the Long-Term Capital fiasco. If the losses were actual trading losses then the investors would have no recourse to their money.

So with Madoff falling on his sword, he keeps the focus on himself and points the investigation down Red Herring Lane, with no records expected to be found, none looked for. Now obviously if the trading did take place there should be records easily traced. So one would have to ask themselves this question: Would the firms that traded with Madoff go along with this and claim that they didn’t have any records?

The whole story behind the Made-off scandal reeks of lies and more lies. Given the extent of corruption in the system, would this type of cover-up, and non-investigation be possible? Years ago I would have thought, “Not a chance!”. Now I can actually entertain the possibility.
Cheers,
Gary

irish

you got mail.

rno

Goldman Tocom

GOLDMAN SACHS MAKES MASSIVE COVERING OF GOLD SHORTS - GOES NET LONG!

Bill,
In the December 18 session on the TOCOM Goldman Sachs COVERED an absolutely gob-smacking 1,307 gold short contracts which reduces their short position to just 495 contracts and leaves their long position unchanged at 1,337 contracts and makes them NET LONG – REPEAT, NET LONG 842 contracts. This is an absolutely stunning development! This is the largest net long position they have held ever since I have been tracking the TOCOM data which is almost 3 years. Considering Goldman’s role in the Cartel and links to the Treasury this is of earth shattering significance. It should also be noted that for ANY trader to be buying 1.3 tonnes of gold in a single day it deserves attention, when it is Goldman Sachs it has special significance.
There are more and more signs that the gold market is about to make a very big upwards move.
Cheers
Adrian

Fullgoldcrown @ 21:27 pm

Bush will not pardon him!  And don’t necessarily believe an article that says all the money went to Israel like the one at 18:04.   Maybe it is correct but I don’t think anyone knows where it all went yet, how the whole thing worked, who else was involved, etc. etc. etc..  We shall learn more in the fullness of time. 

If Bush…Pardons this Madoff guy…I’m gonna be sick !

….but I bet he does….

…Sheesh….Poor Israel…in the centre of the storm again !

.I wouldnt personally think of banking in Israel as a safe bet ….but what do I know…

…..Obama is surrounding himself with a corrupt bunch it seems…

…..My wish for this Xmas……they do a recount and Ron Paul Wins….!

….this is just sick !

…..when are these clowns gona be shown the exit ?